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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: polewka on January 04, 2010, 04:58:33 PM
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Happy New Year to all !
In 2010 I've decided to try and get to a bit more stand up comedy. Wondered if anyone had any tips for successful recs of spoken word acts? I plan to use internal mics only in my Edirol R-09HR. I've taped a bit of spoken word before, but the sound of ice clinking in glasses, coughs and general other auidence mutterings somewhat distracted from the comedian. Any ideas on how I can get a good rec?
Cheers !
Chris.
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this has been discussed many times and usually the majority of people advise it would be easier and more appealing to just get the DVD or the comedy act.
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=104163.0
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=121564.0
perhaps you can PM this guy and ask for some advice:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19719
happy new year
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Cheers. Wasn't aware there was so much on here. Thanks for the reply, I'll dig through these threads and see what I can glean from them. Much appreciated.
Note to self: Must check more thoroughly before posting in future!
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For spoken word recording, including stage performances as well as interviews, lectures, etc., many people simply put one microphone somewhere and hope for the best. But speech recording can benefit from a well-made stereo recording as much as music can.
This is not only for esthetic reasons; we are trained by experience to make some sense of what we hear even from a very poor listening position, since we have two ears and a brain. But people very often take a single (mono) microphone and try to record from an absurd distance where 99% of the sound energy is reflected, and then they're shocked when the recording sounds muddy.
I've done a very large amount of documentary recording of spoken word and speaking alternating with music (i.e. documentary recordings of chamber music rehearsals "coached" by a teacher) and it is every bit as challenging, rewarding and instructive to record as any concert or recital.
I also am friends with someone who transcribes tapes for a living; she sends me the tapes that she can't make out, and I try to dig the sound out for her. So I'm very familiar with people's attempts to get by with casual approaches that don't work very well. Usable speech recordings take as much forethought and effort as good music recordings do.
--best regards
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Stereo and mono microphones most often record sounds 'out of context' so a busy anf reverberant type environment makes recordings that are muddy and/or irritating. In other words, too many conflicting room reflections and sound sources get recorded in a jumbled manner.
Coherent recording microphones is my companies specialty. Also know as DSM HRTF stereo-surround mics. Usually discreetly headworn on glasses frames of some sort and plugged directly into a mic input that can power this type of mic.
This type of mic records virtual reality audio so there is NO difference in your perception of what was heard live, or what is heard in the recording. All those room sounds are recorded ‘in context’ so the original experience, and enjoyment of the event is preserved exactly as the original.
Yes, all those sounds in the room are still being recorded, but not ‘out of context’ in a distracting, irritating, and artificial re-constructed manner as is usual with most all microphones placed arbitrarily inside a busy ambient space.
Example of the simplest Mic+Deck configuration is as shown below, but other models of deck are possible using same type mics.
(http://www.sonicstudios.com/m10combo_med.jpg)
Hearing recordings done in this manner is only way to get what coherent virtual recording is about.
Download and listen to the many hundreds of samples at:
www.sonicstudios.com/mp3.htm (http://www.sonicstudios.com/mp3.htm)
and www.sonicstudios.com/mp3_2slp.htm
(http://www.sonicstudios.com/mp3_2slp.htm)
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Hi
I do quite a lot of comedy taping.
The 2 main methods are using auto gain or set volume
1/ auto gain- in theory the best option just sit back and enjoy the show and it will adjust to any changes in volume. The only downside is if the people sitting near you are load laughers or just noisy it will pick them up more than the comedian (but only for that moment).
2/ set volume a bit of a gamble as you have to guess a good volume beforehand but everything is picked up at the same level
hope this helps- I normally stealth so have left those bits out-any more help please pm