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Title: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on January 18, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
http://hd.engadget.com/2010/01/16/lexicon-busted-passing-oppo-off-as-a-3500-blu-ray-player/

If Lexicon is your favorite brand then here's a shocker, the company figured if it isn't broke, then don't fix it and grabbed an Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player and encased it into a high end chassis and listed it for $3500.
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: Jimna on January 18, 2010, 07:41:20 PM
yep and big law suits are supposedly forth coming.

just goes to show ya that the price tag doesn't guaranty a better product.

they even now are pulling the THX certs even though they are on the face plate.  the oppo didnt come with one.
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: fozzy on January 18, 2010, 07:57:19 PM
Yea, saw this yesterday while window shopping for a new HT pre-pro.  wonder if I should add Lexicon to my list right below B & K of folks i won;t do business with. 

Oppo is the only name on my list for a Bluray source, even before I read this.

Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: OOK on January 18, 2010, 08:10:21 PM
Yea, saw this yesterday while window shopping for a new HT pre-pro.  wonder if I should add Lexicon to my list right below B & K of folks i won;t do business with. 

Oppo is the only name on my list for a Bluray source, even before I read this.

Why B+K ?
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: Jimna on January 18, 2010, 08:40:20 PM

Why B+K ?
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: fozzy on January 18, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
Not perusing B&K anymore mainly because of the promises an under-delivering on the Ref 80 as well as the non-existent  upgrade path which they claim to offer.  I am sure the amps are solid but not really wanting to get into their pre-pro line. 

Currently leaning toward the Onkyo pr-sc5507p. 

Key Features I'm looking for
HDMI switching/upscaling, balanced outputs and auto room correction

Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on January 18, 2010, 10:51:17 PM
Not perusing B&K anymore mainly because of the promises an under-delivering on the Ref 80 as well as the non-existent  upgrade path which they claim to offer.

I have an oooooold B&K ST-140 that's awesome.  But I heard B&K got bought out later on and it went downhill.  Still looks pretty good for the price point though, YMMV...

Terry
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: Jimna on January 19, 2010, 09:33:24 AM
Gene DellaSala at Audioholics re-tested the Lexicon unit for multi-channel performance, and found it actually underperforms the Oppo, because Oppo has released a number of firmware updates to address bass management issues, whereas Lexicon has not!

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=81

All this combined with Lexicons reluctance to come clean on the issue doesnt look good for their future. 

hope no one is trying to sell a used deck cuz the bottom just fell out of their resale values.
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: StuStu on January 19, 2010, 05:41:01 PM
That's very crooked. I hope it sinks the dishonest assholes.
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: jhirte on January 20, 2010, 07:58:54 AM
Gene DellaSala at Audioholics re-tested the Lexicon unit for multi-channel performance, and found it actually underperforms the Oppo, because Oppo has released a number of firmware updates to address bass management issues, whereas Lexicon has not!

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=81

All this combined with Lexicons reluctance to come clean on the issue doesnt look good for their future. 

hope no one is trying to sell a used deck cuz the bottom just fell out of their resale values.

I wonder if you could flash the Lexicon rebrand with an Oppo firmware though...
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: fozzy on January 20, 2010, 01:16:28 PM
Gene DellaSala at Audioholics re-tested the Lexicon unit for multi-channel performance, and found it actually underperforms the Oppo, because Oppo has released a number of firmware updates to address bass management issues, whereas Lexicon has not!

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=81

All this combined with Lexicons reluctance to come clean on the issue doesnt look good for their future. 

hope no one is trying to sell a used deck cuz the bottom just fell out of their resale values.

I wonder if you could flash the Lexicon rebrand with an Oppo firmware though...

I would assume the upgrade process does some sort of checksum verification.  Most likely it would be different due to the Lexicon branding changes.  I would assume one would need to modify the update process to account for the checksum change.
Title: Re: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player
Post by: Xpanding Man on March 16, 2010, 11:54:13 AM
Slightly off topic but the lexicon 284 3 watt class a tube guitar amp is one the best purchasing decisions i ever made.