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Title: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: F0CKER on February 23, 2010, 05:05:40 PM
Has anyone taken on trying to build an NOS bar for the Milab VM44 Link's?  Kwon / NOLAFishwater?  I'm not much of a DIY'er....

Title: Re: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: pmonk66 on February 23, 2010, 08:01:25 PM
New mics????
Title: Re: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: F0CKER on February 23, 2010, 08:38:08 PM
yes tho ive not decided if i want to get the vm44 or the dc 196 yet.
Title: Re: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: notlance on February 23, 2010, 11:40:43 PM
This probably should be over in the microphone forum....

Never used the VM-44 but I love the DC-196.  Not as small as the VM-44 Links, but pretty damn small especially for a LDC.  By the time you buy a couple of omni caps, the 196s are actually less expensive than the 44s, and the 44s don't have a figure-8 cap.

Been using the figure-8 more than I expected.  MS of course, but also spaced figure-8s ala Tony Faulkner.  I've been recording a 16 member jazz vocal group with spaced figure-8s: half the signers one one side, half on the other.  Then I place the rhythm in the null points off to the sides.  Everyone can see and hear each other, and I get good isolation.  The DC-196 is great on vocals and choirs; no harshness or "spittyness" that one sometimes gets with condensers.

Sorry to get OT, but I thought maybe this would help you decide.
Title: Re: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: Todd R on February 24, 2010, 12:34:33 AM
Has anyone taken on trying to build an NOS bar for the Milab VM44 Link's?  Kwon / NOLAFishwater?  I'm not much of a DIY'er....

Others don't like them [cough--dactylus--cough], but I find the milab mic mounts pretty versatile.  So in terms of a NOS mount, just get a mic mount with the right spacing and use the mounts that come with the mics.

I've got a mic mount bar that Darktrain made that has multiple mounting holes, and the outside pair gives a pretty good NOS spacing -- 29-30 cm.  [If you pick up the vm44's, I might even be convinced to sell this mounting bar, since I'm not using it too much.]

I also picked up this mount bar for my Gefells:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html#features

I haven't pulled off my milab mounts to test it exactly, but at 90 degrees and the milab mounts, it looks like it gives a spread of about 27-28 cm.  So not exactly NOS, but close.

There also is a thread somewhere now (microphone section?) about a 4mic mount from sabrasom that certainly could be used with the milab mounts to get true NOS.

EDIT:  On re-reading the thread, I see you're also asking about DIN.  The K&M bar I've got listed above would definitely do DIN, and as I said could come close to NOS.  Same with that sabrasom bar, so you could pretty easily get a standard, stock bar that would accommodate (or nearly accommodate) both patterns.
Title: Re: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on February 24, 2010, 01:00:29 AM
I bought one of these for the tubes.  It's nice.  $85

Superlux MA-90

Title: Re: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: ArchivalAudio on February 24, 2010, 09:37:30 PM
Has anyone taken on trying to build an NOS bar for the Milab VM44 Link's?  Kwon / NOLAFishwater?  I'm not much of a DIY'er....

I'd love to see a Kwon bar ORTF and DINa - NOS/DIN for the VM-44-links

I made this DIY ORTF DINa bar
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,116550.msg1558062.html#msg1558062 (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,116550.msg1558062.html#msg1558062)

it's easy!

easier is same pipe with a 3/8" threaded rod and use the mic clips unaltered- with the 5/8" to 3/8" adapters that come with the mic clips.

or you could even use a delrin riser from darktrain- I suppose or other threaded 5/8" adapter
I like the lo profile of the VM-44's and am waiting to afford some omni caps
though I also really want a pair of DC196's especially for blumlein (figure 8) 
If you don't need to be discreet get the 196's as they are more versatile.



peace
--Ian

going to MMW tomorrow
hopefully the recording will be stellar! 
Title: Re: NOS / DIN Bar for Milab
Post by: newplanet7 on February 25, 2010, 05:59:30 PM

going to MMW tomorrow
hopefully the recording will be stellar!
:coolguy: