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Title: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: Belexes on June 29, 2010, 11:17:36 AM
I have some 007 taping to do this summer that is general admission.  It'll be outdoors, no roof, general admission, using omni mics.

Do people find it better to stack tape or go FOB, center?  Nothing I tape will likely be a stereo mix from the house.
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: setboy on June 29, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
if it really will only mono than i would just hug a stack. Though, when i tape i can never tell so i almost always go up front and in the center
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: nameloc01 on June 29, 2010, 12:50:19 PM
Tough call..omnis pick up alot more low-end (mud) so.. I dunno..

I've used my omnis only a few times (I prefer cards)..it seems as when you are in the optimum location with a good mix, omnis are the preferred capsule..but when you're in less a less than ideal location/conditions..they arent. I think if I could choose my spot, i would go FOS, at least if youre gonna get a heavy bottom end, being that close to a stack, the proximity to the source would at least drown out most of the crowd chatter (which youll probably pick up alot of the farther back into the venue you go).
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: jlykos on June 29, 2010, 01:03:35 PM
Sweet spot, FOB.  You can always take out the low-end in post.  I find that when stack taping, I get pretty unbalanced recordings and the imaging (even on a mono recording) is all screwed up.
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: edtyre on June 29, 2010, 07:33:23 PM
Sweet spot, FOB.  You can always take out the low-end in post.  I find that when stack taping, I get pretty unbalanced recordings and the imaging (even on a mono recording) is all screwed up.
I agree, get centered where it sounds great and hope for not too much chatter.
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: ArchivalAudio on June 30, 2010, 03:05:22 AM
Sweet spot, FOB.  You can always take out the low-end in post.  I find that when stack taping, I get pretty unbalanced recordings and the imaging (even on a mono recording) is all screwed up.
I agree, get centered where it sounds great and hope for not too much chatter.

ditto

FOB sweetspot - and even further forward at some venues
cards  will rule about 20 feet from stage center
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: Belexes on June 30, 2010, 07:21:29 AM
So it appears FOB as long as you are not a mile from the stage and if that were the case, stack record.
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: jlykos on June 30, 2010, 08:17:55 AM
So it appears FOB as long as you are not a mile from the stage and if that were the case, stack record.

If you were a mile from the stage, there is not a whole hell of a lot that you could do with the vast majority of stealth omnis to make it a good recording.  Even if I were a mile from the stage, I would still try to be as centered as possible.
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: Belexes on June 30, 2010, 10:26:53 AM
Cards are better from a distance, but every time I bring them a huge windstorm flares up.  :(
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: adrianf74 on June 30, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
Sweet spot, FOB.  You can always take out the low-end in post.  I find that when stack taping, I get pretty unbalanced recordings and the imaging (even on a mono recording) is all screwed up.
Very valid... Not to mention the risk of brickwalling/overloading as well.
Title: Re: Omni's and taping location in the venue
Post by: adrianf74 on June 30, 2010, 08:17:33 PM
Cards are better from a distance, but every time I bring them a huge windstorm flares up.  :(
Very true - if I'd had cards, I wouldn't have used them this past weekend at a local Amphitheatre because of the winds/torrential downpout we got in Toronto.  I went with my omnis and did pretty decently.