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Title: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: nedstruzz on November 17, 2010, 04:07:23 PM
So I've seen a lot of Schoeps users mount their vertical address capsules backwards on ORTF or DIN Kwon/NOLA Bars and it got me thinking.

If mounting backwards on an ORTF bar you are still 17 CM apart but are the capsules still pointing in a true 110 angle?

How about DIN or DINa bars.  17/20 cm apart but if backwards your caps are really starting to point towards the walls of the venue and not the stacks. 

Any thoughts?  Did I explain the questions/statment clearly?
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: datbrad on November 17, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
So I've seen a lot of Schoeps users mount their vertical address capsules backwards on ORTF or DIN Kwon/NOLA Bars and it got me thinking.

If mounting backwards on an ORTF bar you are still 17 CM apart but are the capsules still pointing in a true 110 angle?

How about DIN or DINa bars.  17/20 cm apart but if backwards your caps are really starting to point towards the walls of the venue and not the stacks. 

Any thoughts?  Did I explain the questions/statment clearly?

Ned, On a DIN bar, it's still 90 degrees backwards, but on an ORTF bar, they are at 70 degrees when mounted backwards. I would think running 41Vs like that would probably work well, but not so much with the 4Vs, unless you want to be pointing at the stacks.
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: nedstruzz on November 17, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
Nice, thanks Brad. 

I guess that really wasn't so diffcult to figure out  ;D
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: Tim on November 18, 2010, 10:10:17 AM
I guess that really wasn't so diffcult to figure out  ;D

actually you'd be surprised. This was a HUGE discussion point when it first came up on here in about in 2004. People had to draw charts and shit in order to demonstrate that, no, you weren't running ORTF when you ran V's backwards on the ORTF bar. It was like the Catholic Church and Copernicus.
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: page on November 18, 2010, 10:43:42 AM
I guess that really wasn't so diffcult to figure out  ;D

actually you'd be surprised. This was a HUGE discussion point when it first came up on here in about in 2004. People had to draw charts and shit in order to demonstrate that, no, you weren't running ORTF when you ran V's backwards on the ORTF bar. It was like the Catholic Church and Copernicus.

 :lol:  :clapping:
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: datbrad on November 18, 2010, 12:50:18 PM
Nice, thanks Brad. 

I guess that really wasn't so diffcult to figure out  ;D

Well, that's ok Ned glad to help, geography was my best subject!  ::)
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: nedstruzz on November 18, 2010, 01:55:31 PM
Nice, thanks Brad. 

I guess that really wasn't so diffcult to figure out  ;D

Well, that's ok Ned glad to help, geography was my best subject!  ::)

Mine too!  ;D
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: ero3030 on November 18, 2010, 02:54:38 PM
ORTF makes them sound best.  ed
Title: Re: Schoeps 4V and 41V ORTF/DIN backward mounting question
Post by: Tim on November 18, 2010, 03:39:27 PM
I guess that really wasn't so diffcult to figure out  ;D

actually you'd be surprised. This was a HUGE discussion point when it first came up on here in about in 2004. People had to draw charts and shit in order to demonstrate that, no, you weren't running ORTF when you ran V's backwards on the ORTF bar. It was like the Catholic Church and Copernicus.

 :lol:  :clapping:

;) I do my best work on an early morning coffee buzz