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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: rockymtnryan on December 15, 2010, 12:46:58 PM
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I must be using the wrong search terms or something. I can never seem to find a selection of mic stands online for concert taping. Everything that comes up is either a boom type of some sort of stage mic stand.
Looking for a basic trip-pod base mic stand that can go to maybe 10 feet. The only one online I seem to come up with is a Shure 14' that sells for $139; which is more height than I need and more than I want to spend.
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What you are looking for is a Light Stand
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post an ISO in the Yard Sale, probably your cheapest bet
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What do you guys think about this?
http://www.alienbees.com/ls3050.html
The LS3050 is an excellent general use 10-foot, 4-section light stand, with a 39-inch maximum footprint. This stand will hold any AlienBees™ unit with lighter-weight accessories such as umbrellas and the LiteMod system (this stand is not recommended for softbox or octabox use). The stand weighs a total of 4 pounds, and will hold up to 10 pounds, collapsing to 32.5 inches for travel.
To attach a stereo bar to the top what size thread do I need to make sure the stand has? 3/8"?
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39" footprint is big and it mentions nothing of air-cushioning - which I strongly recommend
use some of the filters and check http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Lightstands/ci/5799/N/4289244488 for lots of options and don't worry too much about stud/threads at the top as adapters are available to go to any size you need
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use some of the filters and check http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Lightstands/ci/5799/N/4289244488 for lots of options and don't worry too much about stud/threads at the top as adapters are available to go to any size you need
I concur with the options:
two things: I have 2 stands, a short/small FOB-style stand, and a bigger 10 or 11' stand that I use in specific locations where footprint isn't a concern but height is. Of the two, I use the bigger one less but I suspect that's related to where I tape and what I'm comfortable with. ymmv, best of luck.
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What you are looking for is a Light Stand
Yep, search for 'light stand' at B&H and you'll find a slew of stands of all heights and prices. Personally, I use two stands, a smaller footprint Bogen 11' stand and a sturdier 15' Avenger stand.
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I have a Manfrotto 11' that I like, can't rememeber where I got it, but I think from a link on this site.
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For awhile B&H was selling a $25 light, small footprint, 8' stand from Impact. I have one and quite like it.
Yep, still are. They have 8, 10 and 12 footers it looks like. Only slightly more than $25. Good starter; nothing fancy.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253067-REG/Impact_LS10AB_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253074-REG/Impact_LS_8A_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand_.html
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I had good luck just checking ebay for someone selling a used light stand and waiting till one that fits my needs comes up ,and getting lucky with the bidding.
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Here is the one you want....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/644444-REG/Manfrotto_1004BAC_Alu_Master_3_Riser.html
It goes to 12', air cushioned, can carry a heavy load if needed, folds flat, black, rock solid.........
Remember You don't have to go to 12 feet...you can do 9'. But you can't make a 9 foot stand do 12'....
Peace OOK
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I've used the 4m and 2.4m Impact light stands that B&H sells and they work just fine for me. Monday night I had a 1m boom attached to the top of the 4m stand, with $5k of mics hanging on the end with no worries. I did bungee cord the base to the end of the pew, and camped out next to the stand to deflect wookiees. (In most of the concerts I record the wookiees are little old ladies with a touch of dementia. However, they can be just as destructive as Big Dumb Dude with Beer wookiees.)
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Here is the one you want....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/644444-REG/Manfrotto_1004BAC_Alu_Master_3_Riser.html
It goes to 12', air cushioned, can carry a heavy load if needed, folds flat, black, rock solid.........
Remember You don't have to go to 12 feet...you can do 9'. But you can't make a 9 foot stand do 12'....
Peace OOK
imo, it's not a good idea to extend a stand to it's full length as they get wobbly. i have a 13' stand and i don't think i ever ran it over 8' or so.
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Here is the one you want....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/644444-REG/Manfrotto_1004BAC_Alu_Master_3_Riser.html
It goes to 12', air cushioned, can carry a heavy load if needed, folds flat, black, rock solid.........
Remember You don't have to go to 12 feet...you can do 9'. But you can't make a 9 foot stand do 12'....
Peace OOK
imo, it's not a good idea to extend a stand to it's full length as they get wobbly. i have a 13' stand and i don't think i ever ran it over 8' or so.
Yeah I don't ever raise it to its max height. Even with small mics I never feel comfortable with that.
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Shop around... I got mine on ebay years ago, and here's one I just found...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Studio-Light-Stand-9-1ft-Aluminum-Air-Cushion-Release-/360235209138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53dfb111b2
If you run LD mics (I run ADK TLs), you should get something "heavy duty", or something with a wide footprint.
Terry
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I've used the 4m and 2.4m Impact light stands that B&H sells and they work just fine for me. Monday night I had a 1m boom attached to the top of the 4m stand, with $5k of mics hanging on the end with no worries. I did bungee cord the base to the end of the pew, and camped out next to the stand to deflect wookiees. (In most of the concerts I record the wookiees are little old ladies with a touch of dementia. However, they can be just as destructive as Big Dumb Dude with Beer wookiees.)
;D ;D ;D
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imo, it's not a good idea to extend a stand to it's full length as they get wobbly.
The only stand I have is the Bogen 3373 and I routinely run it at max height with a Shure Vert Bar and full bodied SDC's and in the wind. Never bothered me one bit. I do want to get a stand that will go a few feet higher though.
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I picked up one of these a few months back & am quite happy with it:
http://www.calumetphoto.com/eng/product/calumet_13_5_air_cushioned_light_stand/mf6065
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Yeah I don't ever raise it to its max height. Even with small mics I never feel comfortable with that.
Cheaply constructed stands tend to be more flimsy and wobble a lot in the wind when raised high. But my $200 Avenger stand is extremely sturdy (albeit large as well) and has minimal sway even when raised up to 15' so I would say go with something sturdier if you want to go high.
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I picked up one of these a few months back & am quite happy with it:
http://www.calumetphoto.com/eng/product/calumet_13_5_air_cushioned_light_stand/mf6065
Is there a trhead stud on top of the stand you have....
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Rather than worrying about what hardware you need on the top of a stand, just buy a Windtech C clamp (or two or three) and clamp that to your extended stand. This gives you the versatility to clamp to something else or someone else's stand if you need to. They're only $15 or so, which might be less than you spend for the hardware you'd need to customize the top of a stand.
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plus I have seen the stud bend or break on stands where people try to use adapters
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I picked up one of these a few months back & am quite happy with it:
http://www.calumetphoto.com/eng/product/calumet_13_5_air_cushioned_light_stand/mf6065
Is there a trhead stud on top of the stand you have....
Yeah, it came with a 3/8"
The Calumet stand is a little heavier and bulkier than the Manfrotto one I have, but to me it's worth it to have the air cushioning.
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plus I have seen the stud bend or break on stands where people try to use adapters
I assume you don't mean you've seen a stand break with a rapid adapter on it...?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546494-REG/Manfrotto_014_14_014_14_Rapid_Adapter.html
I've found that thing to be nothing but rock solid.
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but not as versatile as a "C" clamp
you can't use a rapid adapter on a railing or hold an umbrella
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I assume you don't mean you've seen a stand break with a rapid adapter on it...?
The studs are often pressed in, and held with a crimp. There may also be a retention screw. Stand quality varies greatly. That stud could pull out or, or the thin wall tubing could crack without warning.
My cheapo $28/shipped Dynatrans has held up well (good luck getting parts), but it is not as well constructed a good bogen/manfrotto. My Gitzo is rated for 39 lbs of gear.
When I load up the dynatrans, the legs usually aren't out, and I'm clamping with a couple of superclamps, etc.
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253074-REG/Impact_LS_8A_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand_.html
This is the only stand I have and it works great for me. Usually just add a little duck tape to it to keep it steady if bumped. Think I payed $30 for it.
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I've just got a radio shack tripod based one and a proline boom arm. Goes a good 9'. If it's windy you really don't want to go higher than that. And having the boom arm to bend to favor the incline of the land is a plus. Plus the clutch to drape cords over or use as a tie down point. But very wobbly in wind, plus top heavy, and I rarely exceed more than 2/3 extension on all segments +/- depending on wind. I'd recommend a good light stand. Designed for heavier gear and way cheaper than mic stands. Wider base, and other things. A good clamp too. Maybe even a wooden dowel to fill in the top tube to avoid over clamping. If you're cheap a stereo bar ($10) and a couple hose clamps ($0.50) to rig up to the stand. If you need something cheaper or lighter, I'm sure there's a way to rig something up with PVC. Although at that height you'd need a good diameter pipe, and other issues.
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The Shure S15 or S10 are the best out there for taping. Both are aluminium telecoping stands with adjustable foot print tripod base. The 15 is 15' and the 10 is 10'. Honestly, I'd get the 15 as you can always make it shorter but extra lenght is a real problem if you need it and do not have it. Also the 15 is MUCH sturdier. They run about $150 but will last a lifetime if you take care of them and don't strip the t-bar threads at the top. (It IS aluminium so use some care and make a little cap to protect when not in use!)
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I bought mine for $180 back in 1999 from Sonic Sense. Seems expensive, but its lasted this long and aint going nowhere anytime soon ;) In fact, Id rather use it than a newer stand, because mine has proven reliable time and time again :)