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Title: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: Napo on January 21, 2011, 12:30:50 PM

Is there any sonic dfiference between the two?
I am planning to buy my second type of caps (MK4) to use with my CMR rig. I tape mostly jazz concerts.

Best from Italy
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: NOLAfishwater on January 21, 2011, 12:57:30 PM
no. think about it. is a red lamborghini faster than a black one?
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: su6oxone on January 21, 2011, 01:05:19 PM
I would get gray since itll match the gray cmr/kcy/kc5/cmc that itll be attached to.  Of course if u dont care about that and found a good deal for nickel, then you may as well get the nickel.  Nickel probably stays clean better. 
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: Napo on January 21, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
Thanks, NOLAfishwater; nice parallel and very clear.
In my sound engineering ignorance (I am on a learning curve) I thought that different materials could have a different reaction to incoming sound.

Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: Napo on January 21, 2011, 01:14:55 PM
I would get gray since itll match the gray cmr/kcy/kc5/cmc that itll be attached to. 

Actually I was considering to go for nickel just for the novelty and the colour contrast with the CMR....
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: OOK on January 21, 2011, 04:11:19 PM
Although shinny I think the nickel finish is more durable than the nextel grey.  I have heard the nextal finish has a tendency to flake off, where as the nickel finish does not.  Maybe others can attest to this......

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Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: StuStu on January 21, 2011, 05:35:28 PM
I recommend getting grey for resale purposes. It seems to be the preferred color. Other than that, I see no difference. I don't own any nickel caps, but I like the way they look too.
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: NOLAfishwater on January 21, 2011, 07:20:25 PM
I would buy nextel grey as well for resale value. Some people favor the nextel b/c it is less distracting if you are running onstage for a concert or something along those lines.
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: stevetoney on January 21, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
no. think about it. is a red lamborghini faster than a black one?

Louie, actually if I owned a red Lam, it would DEFINITELY be faster than any freakin' black one. 

Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: OOK on January 21, 2011, 09:59:53 PM
no. think about it. is a red lamborghini faster than a black one?

Louie, actually if I owned a red Lam, it would DEFINITELY be faster than any freakin' black one.

I would use the red one for open taping and the black one for stealthing.....

but seriously isn't the nickel more durable...I get the whole flashy shinny surface thing. But once they are in mounts and wind screens I am sure not much is left exposed...  The thing I never understood about the schoeps is you pay so much dam money for them, there should never be a worry about the finish.  I cant count how many times I see schoeps posted with something about the finished being flaked off somewhere.  I guess I see it with a lot of mics...true but the grey finish just seems so delicate...
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: su6oxone on January 21, 2011, 10:33:19 PM
I cant count how many times I see schoeps posted with something about the finished being flaked off somewhere.  I guess I see it with a lot of mics...true but the grey finish just seems so delicate...

This only happens with people who are careless with their gear, which is surprisingly a considerable number of tapers.  If you take reasonable care of them, they will stay nice even in Nextel gray finish.
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 22, 2011, 03:07:58 PM
I cant count how many times I see schoeps posted with something about the finished being flaked off somewhere.  I guess I see it with a lot of mics...true but the grey finish just seems so delicate...

This only happens with people who are careless with their gear, which is surprisingly a considerable number of tapers.  If you take reasonable care of them, they will stay nice even in Nextel gray finish.

Lets trade my MBHO stuff for your CCM41's :P
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: su6oxone on January 22, 2011, 03:15:21 PM
Lets trade my MBHO stuff for your CCM41's :P

I love my CCM41s -- probably the only time I'll get rid of them is if I retire from taping.  Although I've been thinking about hanging it up lately so stay tuned...  8)
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 22, 2011, 03:37:30 PM
Lets trade my MBHO stuff for your CCM41's :P

I love my CCM41s -- probably the only time I'll get rid of them is if I retire from taping.  Although I've been thinking about hanging it up lately so stay tuned...  8)

Those are the ONLY MICS I'd give up my Ho's for too 8)
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: su6oxone on January 22, 2011, 05:34:10 PM
Those are the ONLY MICS I'd give up my Ho's for too 8)

They are quite simply, the best mics IMO.  Of course, I've only tried a handful of mics previously (AT853, CA-11, KM184, MK4/CMC6, and CCM4).  :P
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 22, 2011, 05:45:06 PM
Those are the ONLY MICS I'd give up my Ho's for too 8)

They are quite simply, the best mics IMO.  Of course, I've only tried a handful of mics previously (AT853, CA-11, KM184, MK4/CMC6, and CCM4).  :P

Agreed, just WAY out of my price range, plus IMO I havent made one BAD recording w/ my MBHO>722 setup :P
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: StuStu on January 22, 2011, 10:13:47 PM
I cant count how many times I see schoeps posted with something about the finished being flaked off somewhere.  I guess I see it with a lot of mics...true but the grey finish just seems so delicate...

This only happens with people who are careless with their gear, which is surprisingly a considerable number of tapers.  If you take reasonable care of them, they will stay nice even in Nextel gray finish.


I agree and don't understand how someone would allow their very expensive mics to get scuffed up so badly. I suppose it might be different for those using them in other fields such as film, etc. I'm guessing other applications might expose them more than just sitting in a gear bag. And in all fairness, a lot of tapers buy used gear and can't control what happened in the past.   
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: ero3030 on January 23, 2011, 09:13:02 AM
11 years with nextel gray and not a nic or scuff.  plus the shit is sexy as hell!!  it is a new option for the MBHO's it think, i know i seen some of there stuff with it, and sennheiser has nextel also.   its a non reflective finish for the film and TV industry.  u'all see them on tv all the time, dont tell me u guys dont watch for that shit.  i see it all the time, mics, recorders, and point them out to my old lady and she just rolls her eyes at me ::) ::)lol    ed
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: Napo on January 25, 2011, 03:27:03 AM
I love my CCM41s -- probably the only time I'll get rid of them is if I retire from taping.  Although I've been thinking about hanging it up lately so stay tuned...  8)

I love my MK21>CMR combo. MK21 caps are the best for taping jazz in controlled environments like small auditorium!
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: tim in jersey on January 25, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
no. think about it. is a red lamborghini faster than a black one?

Actually, in drag racing in any case, it is a known fact that a white car will outperform a black car in hot climates due to the fact that it keeps the car a few degrees cooler than a black one.
Title: Re: schoeps capsule grey vs. nickel?
Post by: NOLAfishwater on January 26, 2011, 04:16:25 PM
no. think about it. is a red lamborghini faster than a black one?

Actually, in drag racing in any case, it is a known fact that a white car will outperform a black car in hot climates due to the fact that it keeps the car a few degrees cooler than a black one.

that is why I said red and black. everyone knows about the white car out performing in hot weather  :P :P :P :P