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Title: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 08, 2011, 01:00:49 AM
Anyone know of a shockmount suitable for an approximately 17-18mm mic bar supporting my low profile Franken Nak mic bar (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=144397.0)?  (Don't have any calipers handy to perform a precise measurement.)

The ones with which I'm familiar and used by others for a variety of mounting options, only one of which is definitely suitable for my needs:

13-54mm  |  Audio Technica AT8415
19mm  |  Shure A53M
20mm  |  Schoeps A20 (S)
22mm  |  Joe Meek JM-27SM (Schoeps lookalike)
22mm  |  Busman (Schoeps-lookalike, don't know what make / model)
25mm  |  Shure A55M

Right now I'm leaning towards the AT8415.  I'm guessing the A53M is a little too big, but don't have one on hand to try.  And the Schoeps-lookalike is definitely too big...even with extra padding in the shockmount cylinder, the opening of the tube is too wide and not secure enough.

Any other candidates of which I should be aware?
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: page on April 08, 2011, 01:24:30 AM
Only thing I can think of that you havn't mentioned is the Rycote INV-6. The bar I use with my beyers is 17-18mm (all I have is a ruler) and it fits well with it. My only concern would be weight. If you'll remind me this weekend I'll put everything together and weigh it.
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: Hypnocracy on April 08, 2011, 02:02:04 PM
Not sure if it is Low Pro....but I find this one to be truly versatile (and reasonable in cost), have 2 that have been used for everything from Nak CM100-CP4 Guns to AT853's

(http://www.tensimount.com/images/big_little.jpg)

http://www.tensimount.com/tensimount.htm

You can get slightly heavier O-Rings if you are concerned about weight.


 
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: ashevillain on April 08, 2011, 02:15:48 PM
And the Schoeps-lookalike is definitely too big...even with extra padding in the shockmount cylinder, the opening of the tube is too wide and not secure enough.

There are a couple different Schoeps A20s lookalikes. There's a Joe Meek shockmount, Busman shockmount and there might even be one more I can't remember. Not sure if the Busman mounts are still in production or not.
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: jbell on April 08, 2011, 02:25:06 PM
shure donut
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: page on April 08, 2011, 02:33:05 PM
shure donut

Thats the A53. The rycote inv-6 can handle stuff smaller then the A53, down to maybe 16mm if you don't put much torque on the bar. With my bar, I have to add a good 4 layers of taper to get it snug in the donut compared to the clamp-style of the inv-6.
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 08, 2011, 05:36:18 PM
shure donut

I'm all for the A53M if it actually accommodates 17-18mm -- especially since it's built to hold fairly heavy mics (the SM94 is 9 oz + battery).  Unfortunately, the spec per Shure is 19.05 mm (3/4"), and I don't know how much tolerance is built into the design.  The A26X are "about 11/16 in", or ~17.5 mm, per Shure.

Does anyone have an A53M and a 17.5 mm rod to check?  The Atlas 5/8" F-F coupler is nearly the same size as the Shure A26X (the coupler is just a fraction of a mm larger), so if the coupler fits, I suspect the A26X will fit.

Worst case, I'll go with the AT8415, but I like the compact size of the A53M.  Maybe wrapping the A26X in heatshrink tubing or some such would fill it out enough to fit the A53M.
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: BusDriver on April 08, 2011, 08:05:34 PM
The best I can measure with ruler is 22mm on the shure donut. I use  mine on a typical mic stand extension tube (about 4 1/2 " long) with audix micro clips on the end to hold the AT 853's. The tube diameter is about 17mm. For a firm fit i simply built the tube up with electrical tape. The chrome tube needed to be masked anyhow.
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: page on April 08, 2011, 11:11:48 PM
Does anyone have an A53M and a 17.5 mm rod to check?  The Atlas 5/8" F-F coupler is nearly the same size as the Shure A26X (the coupler is just a fraction of a mm larger), so if the coupler fits, I suspect the A26X will fit.

You'll need to pad the rod a bit if you're final size is just under 18mm, I've tried.
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: goodcooker on April 09, 2011, 12:19:44 PM

Avantone SSM

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-QnmM768L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

with four bands on each side should hold it
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: DigiGal on April 09, 2011, 03:11:06 PM
Rycote INV 7 are spec'd to fit 19 - 25 mm | The lyre supports are spaced further apart than the INV 6.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcQNFDEOpRIpprIpuOgFRdwTuwqox4Ur0KaKbZAcCNoObyac0V)
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: vanark on April 09, 2011, 04:46:35 PM
What about a Windtech SP-20?  The wider end is about 19 mm (I assume the 20 in SP-20 stands for 20 mm) and the narrow end is 17 mm.

(http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/350/SP20.jpg)
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: audBall on April 13, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
Avantone SSM
...
with four bands on each side should hold it

^This, or the Superlux HM-32 (lighter) will do the trick.  You could use two mounts side-by-side for when the widest setup is used.  The extra bands will hold the bar in place but also allow for rotational flexibility.  This is the method I use on my DIY mount for my mod 700s.   
Title: Re: Low profile shockmount for ~17-18mm mic bar
Post by: John Willett on April 15, 2011, 07:54:02 AM
Rycote INV 7 are spec'd to fit 19 - 25 mm | The lyre supports are spaced further apart than the INV 6.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcQNFDEOpRIpprIpuOgFRdwTuwqox4Ur0KaKbZAcCNoObyac0V)

This is probably the best option.

The INV-7 has three mounting points - it is delivered as standard at the widest setting.  The narrow setting is the same as an INV-6 and there is also an intermediate setting.

All you have to do is to unscrew one of the "Lyres" and screw it into the spare hole.