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Title: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: bluenote2005 on May 18, 2011, 02:48:00 PM
I've been asked to record someone at a jazz club in NYC. I will be seating front and center. I will be using my Church microphones and church preamp along with a Sony PCMD50 recorder. What should I consider to get the best recording? Since I have the okay to record the set, should I place the mics on the stage or somewhere else to get the best recording?
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: audBall on May 18, 2011, 02:58:47 PM
My initial suggestion would be to place them on stage (or at the stage lip), center, roughly 3ft high, split ~20-30cm. 

Is this an acoustic performance or reinforced with a PA?  How many musicians?
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 18, 2011, 06:21:06 PM
Yeah, we need more info. Are you using cards or omnis ??? If cards, run DIN, which is 20cm/90*, omnis, split them about 30-40cm ;)
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: Church-Audio on May 18, 2011, 06:45:57 PM
I've been asked to record someone at a jazz club in NYC. I will be seating front and center. I will be using my Church microphones and church preamp along with a Sony PCMD50 recorder. What should I consider to get the best recording? Since I have the okay to record the set, should I place the mics on the stage or somewhere else to get the best recording?

Jazz club? Dummy head with a pair of my omni mics on ether side.
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: bluenote2005 on May 18, 2011, 09:18:51 PM
Yes it is a jazz club. It is a quintet and there will be a PA. I am using the CAFS mics that Church sells.
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: Church-Audio on May 19, 2011, 02:28:13 PM
Yes it is a jazz club. It is a quintet and there will be a PA. I am using the CAFS mics that Church sells.

If you are using Cafs I would recommend you wear them... If not then use a dummy head. Best place for these mics is on your head. Taped to eye glasses just above the ear facing towards the action. Gain on the preamp to 90%
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on May 19, 2011, 02:44:52 PM
I've been asked to record someone at a jazz club in NYC. I will be seating front and center. I will be using my Church microphones and church preamp along with a Sony PCMD50 recorder. What should I consider to get the best recording? Since I have the okay to record the set, should I place the mics on the stage or somewhere else to get the best recording?

If the performer has a beard, clip your mics to it.  That is by far the best.
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: Myco on May 19, 2011, 02:50:05 PM
I've been asked to record someone at a jazz club in NYC. I will be seating front and center. I will be using my Church microphones and church preamp along with a Sony PCMD50 recorder. What should I consider to get the best recording? Since I have the okay to record the set, should I place the mics on the stage or somewhere else to get the best recording?

If the performer has a beard, clip your mics to it.  That is by far the best.

I don't know, I'd tend more towards the handlebar mustache method than the beard method, but then again, I've never tried the beard method.  ;)
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: bluenote2005 on May 19, 2011, 04:56:22 PM
Yes it is a jazz club. It is a quintet and there will be a PA. I am using the CAFS mics that Church sells.

If you are using Cafs I would recommend you wear them... If not then use a dummy head. Best place for these mics is on your head. Taped to eye glasses just above the ear facing towards the action. Gain on the preamp to 90%

So turn the gain on the preap to 90%. What about the gain on the Sony? I usually have it at 100 and then adjust the preamp gain. If what you suggest is better, what should I have the Sony set to in terms of gain?
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: Church-Audio on May 19, 2011, 05:14:48 PM
Yes it is a jazz club. It is a quintet and there will be a PA. I am using the CAFS mics that Church sells.

If you are using Cafs I would recommend you wear them... If not then use a dummy head. Best place for these mics is on your head. Taped to eye glasses just above the ear facing towards the action. Gain on the preamp to 90%

So turn the gain on the preap to 90%. What about the gain on the Sony? I usually have it at 100 and then adjust the preamp gain. If what you suggest is better, what should I have the Sony set to in terms of gain?

Get the remainder of the gain from the Sony. Get most of the gain from my preamp.
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 19, 2011, 05:29:01 PM
I've been asked to record someone at a jazz club in NYC. I will be seating front and center. I will be using my Church microphones and church preamp along with a Sony PCMD50 recorder. What should I consider to get the best recording? Since I have the okay to record the set, should I place the mics on the stage or somewhere else to get the best recording?

If the performer has a beard, clip your mics to it.  That is by far the best.

I don't know, I'd tend more towards the handlebar mustache method than the beard method, but then again, I've never tried the beard method.  ;)

Hmmm, a beard baffle ;)
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 19, 2011, 05:29:35 PM
Yes it is a jazz club. It is a quintet and there will be a PA. I am using the CAFS mics that Church sells.

If you are using Cafs I would recommend you wear them... If not then use a dummy head. Best place for these mics is on your head. Taped to eye glasses just above the ear facing towards the action. Gain on the preamp to 90%

So turn the gain on the preap to 90%. What about the gain on the Sony? I usually have it at 100 and then adjust the preamp gain. If what you suggest is better, what should I have the Sony set to in terms of gain?

Unity gain on the Sony PCM-M10 is at Level 4 :)
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: Myco on May 19, 2011, 07:06:48 PM
I've been asked to record someone at a jazz club in NYC. I will be seating front and center. I will be using my Church microphones and church preamp along with a Sony PCMD50 recorder. What should I consider to get the best recording? Since I have the okay to record the set, should I place the mics on the stage or somewhere else to get the best recording?

If the performer has a beard, clip your mics to it.  That is by far the best.

I don't know, I'd tend more towards the handlebar mustache method than the beard method, but then again, I've never tried the beard method.  ;)

Hmmm, a beard baffle ;)

Like this?
Title: Re: Best placement for your microphones
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 19, 2011, 09:11:27 PM
I've been asked to record someone at a jazz club in NYC. I will be seating front and center. I will be using my Church microphones and church preamp along with a Sony PCMD50 recorder. What should I consider to get the best recording? Since I have the okay to record the set, should I place the mics on the stage or somewhere else to get the best recording?

If the performer has a beard, clip your mics to it.  That is by far the best.

I don't know, I'd tend more towards the handlebar mustache method than the beard method, but then again, I've never tried the beard method.  ;)

Hmmm, a beard baffle ;)

Like this?

Yes, exactly like that :)