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Title: Berliner CM33- too bright?
Post by: brewcrew87 on July 16, 2011, 09:51:59 AM
i just picked up a set from fleabay and will be pairing them with a littlebox, my budget wasnt huge but these seemed ot be the best of the lower end$$. anyone had experience with these mics? i am worried they will be too bright but the samples i heard sounded ... ::)OK
Title: Re: Berliner CM33- too bright?
Post by: TNJazz on July 16, 2011, 10:04:16 AM
Bright is a relative term and it means different things to different people.  Try the mics out and see what YOU think.
Title: Re: Berliner CM33- too bright?
Post by: gkatz on July 16, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
check this out http://www.archive.org/details/DancingOnTheDarksideSource2

CM33 --> LittleBox > DR07

and also my personal experience is that "brighter" sounding recordings sound better on computer type speakers without much low end. I think that's why alot of people may think schoeps and other much flatter sounding mics sound "muddy" on their mediocre playback setups.
just some thoughts
Title: Re: Berliner CM33- too bright?
Post by: page on July 16, 2011, 11:38:27 AM
check this out http://www.archive.org/details/DancingOnTheDarksideSource2

CM33 --> LittleBox > DR07

and also my personal experience is that "brighter" sounding recordings sound better on computer type speakers without much low end. I think that's why alot of people may think schoeps and other much flatter sounding mics sound "muddy" on their mediocre playback setups.
just some thoughts

hmm, interesting, I've always had better experience with schoeps on thin playback. My POS speakers at work can recreate bass down to about 150hz and after that it has a steep rolloff. On my better equipment which can handle stuff down to 30hz, I find the boom or bloat to be too much and I want to EQ some of it off. I'm primarily concerned with quantity, not necessarily resolution in that regard.

to the OP; this is a great example of how different people hear different things. I agree, run them for a show or two, the worst that could happen is you end up EQing them a touch and moving on to something else.
Title: Re: Berliner CM33- too bright?
Post by: Hypnocracy on July 16, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
concordniners runs Berliner CM33's > Little Box > DR07...here is his recordings on LMA

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=taper%3A%22NSL%22

there are some good sounding ones ones on there...
Title: Re: Berliner CM33- too bright?
Post by: acidjack on July 17, 2011, 01:01:43 PM
check this out http://www.archive.org/details/DancingOnTheDarksideSource2

CM33 --> LittleBox > DR07

and also my personal experience is that "brighter" sounding recordings sound better on computer type speakers without much low end. I think that's why alot of people may think schoeps and other much flatter sounding mics sound "muddy" on their mediocre playback setups.
just some thoughts

Concur.  Also, there is the idea that if you start out with something that's not there, you can't put it back.  DPAs are very accurate, and as a result the non-EQ'd source can sound terrible.  You have to be willing to use the EQ a little with a better mic sometimes.

I've listened to some of concordniners' recordings on my Westone 3s through a computer, and I thought they sounded quite good.  Certainly thinner than some of the ultrapremium mics, but damn good sounding.
Title: Re: Berliner CM33- too bright?
Post by: NSL on July 17, 2011, 01:32:39 PM
concordniners runs Berliner CM33's > Little Box > DR07...here is his recordings on LMA

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=taper%3A%22NSL%22

there are some good sounding ones ones on there...

I love these mics, got them from Berliner for pretty cheap as well.  Haven't been disappointed with these mics.  They are brighter than a lot of the other mics out there, but that's fine with me. 

Here are some to check out -

Umphrey's McGee - http://www.archive.org/details/UM2011-02-17
Umphrey's McGee - http://www.archive.org/details/UM2011-02-19
Holy Ghost Tent Revival - http://www.archive.org/details/HGTR2011-07-03
The Mantras - http://www.archive.org/details/TM2011-03-18
Actual Proof - http://www.archive.org/details/AP2011-02-25
Phish - http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=545838

Both the Umphrey's shows and the Phish show have multiple recordings to compare to

Heres another thread about these mics- http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=65970.0