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Title: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: Popmarter on July 31, 2011, 05:12:26 AM
Hi,

Looking for a complete setup to transfer old stuff, i have: Cassettedeck, Minidisc (with optical out) and DAT.

I am looking for one unit to connect all these too and then (if possible in 24 bit) record to harddisc (flash/SD-card, through USB?, whatever). After that i want the WAV to edit in the PC.

To exclude all sorts of possible extra noises (and the fact that i have an old laptop) i'd rather not go for any internal soundcard.

Low noise (in case of cassette-tranfers) seems, from what i read, a thing to look for...?

What are my options? Primairy goal is error-free and stable transfers at variable bitrate. No need for anything else fancy.


Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: vanark on July 31, 2011, 09:34:20 AM
Sounds like an Edirol UA-5 would do the trick?  I have not used it for what you have described, but with the various digital and analog inputs and a USB connection to your hard drive, it seems to be something to look into.
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: Popmarter on July 31, 2011, 01:30:36 PM
Thanks, yes looks like the one to have. But seems like its discontinueed and haven't found it secondhand in Europe yet... any other recommandations?
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: Brian Skalinder on July 31, 2011, 01:58:47 PM
For cassette transfers:


For MD transfers:


For DAT transfers, either/or:



Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: DigiGal on July 31, 2011, 03:32:02 PM
Thanks, yes looks like the one to have. But seems like its discontinueed and haven't found it secondhand in Europe yet... any other recommandations?

They are discontinued yes but used and modded Edirol UA-5's pop up in the yard sale all the time.  There are a couple currently listed at a good price too...

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=145729.0

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=147310.0
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: hi and lo on July 31, 2011, 04:05:10 PM
Doesn't the UA-5 resample the digital input?
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: Popmarter on August 01, 2011, 10:47:58 AM
Thanks all for the replies. Working on it :)  ;D
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on August 01, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Doesn't the UA-5 resample the digital input?

Yes...  If I remember correctly...  Skalinder has the best solution...

Terry
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: sunjan on August 03, 2011, 06:24:08 AM
Any external sound card with coax + toslink + analog input that doesn't resample would cut the bill.
Fast Track Pro comes to mind.

After looking around, I realize that Art USB Phono Plus is more convenient, since Fast Track Pro lacks the toslink.
Can be had for 83 EUR:
http://geizhals.at/eu/?in=&fs=art+usb+phono+plus
Line in/Phono is switchable with a button on the front.
(http://www.majormusic.com.au/images/art_usb_phono_plus_rear_med.jpg)

The total cost would be lower than Brian's solution above.  ;D ;D ;D

Regarding UA-5, they do show up in Europe if you have the patience. Here's one in the UK:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320736109944

But as Hi and lo pointed out it does resample digital input, so it's less than ideal for DAT/MD transfers.
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: Popmarter on August 06, 2011, 01:35:27 PM
Thanks for checking that out. Brian his suggestion is good as i only need a small extra toy. I already have md and can use a DAT deck from a friend.

Still, resampling is no good? What is the alternative called(bit to bit??).
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: sunjan on August 07, 2011, 08:51:25 AM
Bit-perfect is what you should look for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit-perfect
Title: Re: Transfers: Cassettedeck/MD/DAT > [what to put in here?] >HD
Post by: adrianf74 on September 07, 2011, 01:08:19 PM
For MiniDisc, you have a few options but the best still is to use the Sony MZ-M200/MZ-RH1 with the included software (or open source software) and then copy the raw data files to your PC and play them back using FFDShow.