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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Big Perm on August 08, 2011, 11:36:49 PM
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I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to do this. Any suggestions?
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I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to do this. Any suggestions?
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whats your shockmounts or are you investing in that as well?
The official XY config on Schoeps' site is the M 100 C setup (http://schoeps.de/en/products/m100) (Tbar, the active clips pointed together, get a spacer to jack one clip up higher). Their 4VXY "stereo mics" however are spaced horizontally, not vertically (http://schoeps.de/en/products/cmxy). I'm not sure I agree with that, but ymmv, so technically an option would be to just reduce the space to where you use an MS windscreen and put them next to each other on a sideways MS mount (pointed upward zman-style).
The (.)(.) would be to find the blumlein mount. I know they did one for the full bodies, but there is bound to be something for the actives/ccms. Maybe something from Rycote or a third party. I can't find pictures of it online on short notice.
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mount them like you would any other pair of mics. With the vert. arrangement, you can go one on top of the other in a straight "stick" formation (one mic upside down, the other beneath it right side up...twisted at 90deg from each other).
the straight up on a T bar way ..., same as regular XY only pay attention to the capsule arrangement so that they are right over each other.
I have a picture of some 414's setup like this. If I can find it, I'll post it.
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Either the AMS 22.... vertical, side-by-side. Schoeps claims that the capsules are close enough together that it would be considered XY.
Or two Shure A53M mounts on a Shure Vert Bar (or similar). The capsules would be mounted just like a pair of LD mics.... vertical, one on top of the other.
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Either the AMS 22.... vertical, side-by-side. Schoeps claims that the capsules are close enough together that it would be considered XY.
Or two Shure A53M mounts on a Shure Vert Bar (or similar). The capsules would be mounted just like a pair of LD mics.... vertical, one on top of the other.
I was thinking about the shure vert bar. If put them right next to each other, do I just turn them 90 degrees...like din with no spacing?
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(http://www.schoeps.de/IMG/products/application/ums20-blumlein_0.jpg)
The Schoeps UMS 20 mounting bar would work or any t-bar that allows you to orient the microphone head-to-head as pictured.
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If you can find the Blumlein mount that looks like a paint roller when you put the windscreen (Schoeps WB Windscreen) on that would be perfect. Otherwise, just use a vark bar vertically with some SGC clips and you'll get the same thing
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Either the AMS 22.... vertical, side-by-side. Schoeps claims that the capsules are close enough together that it would be considered XY.
Or two Shure A53M mounts on a Shure Vert Bar (or similar). The capsules would be mounted just like a pair of LD mics.... vertical, one on top of the other.
I was thinking about the shure vert bar. If put them right next to each other, do I just turn them 90 degrees...like din with no spacing?
Yep... just angle the "red dots" at 90*.
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(http://www.schoeps.de/IMG/products/application/ums20-blumlein_0.jpg)
The Schoeps UMS 20 mounting bar would work or any t-bar that allows you to orient the microphone head-to-head as pictured.
Bingo, thats what I was looking for. Then you just cut the spacing between the caps.
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I wouldn't advise people to set up a pair of MK 41 V capsules directly side by side (or the MK 8, either). That kind of arrangement is considerably more successful when the MK 4 V (cardioid) capsules are used, which is how the CMXY 4V stereo microphones are arranged. But these "vertical supercardioid" capsules seem to interfere with one another when they are immediately adjacent to one another. A few years ago I tried it a couple of times, as did some other people, and none of us were very happy with the result. This is why Schoeps doesn't offer a "CMXY 41 V" stereo microphone.
I would either separate the capsules by an inch or more in the horizontal plane (which of course is no longer strictly X/Y, but for most people a good-sounding stereo pickup is more important than perfect stereo/mono compatibility) or else place them "head to head" one above the other.
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