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Title: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: chrisv31 on September 11, 2011, 06:41:59 AM
Hi,
I just bought a set of KM140 ,I'm ready now my first recording and the question now is :how can I do to hide them for stealth situation :(
I've seen some topic talking about hats (mics inside) but I'm afraid to have the sound of my recording slightly muffled , what do think?
Thanks in advance for your help :)

Chris

Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: John Willett on September 11, 2011, 06:58:20 AM
If you have the SKM 140 stereoset, use the remote cables and separate the heads from the bodies.  This will make the mics. much smaller and easier to hide.

You could use the supplied stereo mount and mount the mics on a skull cap - then wear a hat that is acoustically open on top of this - these hats are often used in summer as they keep the sun off and let air through to cool the head.

Well, it's a thought and my €'s worth.
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: chrisv31 on September 11, 2011, 07:06:15 AM
Thank you for your reply!
I've got the KM140 version without remote cables :(

Chris
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on September 11, 2011, 07:11:28 AM
Just a little warning for you. Some people here think we shouldn't discuss stealth techniques here. Personally, I don't think it's rocket science and it really isn't too hard to figure out on either side (tapers or security).

Full (or nearly full) sized mics are going to be harder to hide, but just use your imagination. Try things out at home, and make sure you're comfortable before you go out.

Techniques will vary depending on the venue. I recorded a show last weekend and pretty much did everything in the open. Venue staff didn't care (even though there were no taping signs up).
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: dgale on September 11, 2011, 09:16:59 PM
Buy a set of active cables for your KM140s if you want to stealth.  Once you do, get a Vent Air Kangol hat.
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: page on September 12, 2011, 01:30:36 AM
Buy a set of active cables for your KM140s if you want to stealth.

bare minimum. otherwise you're basically limited to very few options in setup configurations and hiding spots.
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: gratefulphish on September 13, 2011, 12:21:39 AM
Buy a set of active cables for your KM140s if you want to stealth.  Once you do, get a Vent Air Kangol hat.

^^^^^
This. If you are going to be trying to do any regular stealthing with KM-140s, then the active cables are a must.
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: chrisv31 on September 13, 2011, 08:21:24 AM
thanks everybody :)
the problem with the active cables from Neumann is the lenght (5 meters or 10 meters) , for me it's too much 1 meter will be enought. 
I don't know if it's possible to order a custom version of these active cables.

Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: hi and lo on September 13, 2011, 10:24:49 AM
If you can't order them new in custom lengths from Neumann, I'm fairly certain an existing pair can be shortened if you send it back to the factory.

Having owned the 5m version, I hear you. They are too unwieldy for  >:D taping, but that said you will need something. Running w/o actives will be extremely challenging.
Title: Re: NEED SOME HELP , I'm a beginner-stealthing with Neumann KM140 !
Post by: daspyknows on September 25, 2011, 09:36:26 PM
If you can't order them new in custom lengths from Neumann, I'm fairly certain an existing pair can be shortened if you send it back to the factory.

Having owned the 5m version, I hear you. They are too unwieldy for  >:D taping, but that said you will need something. Running w/o actives will be extremely challenging.

I'm sure there are some folks on here who could do the modification.  If you can't get them modified just wrap them around your wasye a few times.  I used to do that until I got my Schoeps actives modified.