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Title: sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: marc0789 on March 10, 2004, 03:19:25 PM

sound pro>battery box>m1 line in, or mic in, lo sens? Thanks, Marc.

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: nickgregory on March 10, 2004, 03:32:39 PM

I did line in with those...with no problems...only problem you will have is if the bass pushes them it will cause distortion...

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: marc0789 on March 10, 2004, 03:50:54 PM

thanks nick. sound pros are backup in case tonight.

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: nickgregory on March 10, 2004, 03:55:45 PM

you will have to run the M1 around 7-10, but you should get pretty good levels, only other issue I can think of is if the show is really quiet, I could see the crowd clipping the levels...

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: §†∑∫åµÞ≥¥ on March 10, 2004, 04:18:46 PM

Hey Marc.... I almost always use them line-in -- it seems to give more play with the levels. Also, the battery box is a bass roll-off which should eliminate any distortion problems. The AD-20 also helps get rid of overage.

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: nickgregory on March 10, 2004, 04:20:35 PM

Quote from: Buddha's Sister Tokeinator on March 10, 2004, 04:18:46 PM

Also, the battery box is a bass roll-off which should eliminate any distortion problems.

only if the mic is not overloading....but this should not be a problem at a dylan show...but for a kid rock show...well dont get me started....

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: marc0789 on March 10, 2004, 04:22:28 PM

cool, thanks guys.

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on March 10, 2004, 04:43:43 PM

line in is all good with the SPs

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: zhianosatch on March 10, 2004, 05:01:31 PM

Which SPs? 853s, I assume?

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: §†∑∫åµÞ≥¥ on March 10, 2004, 07:46:58 PM

Quote from: nickgregory on March 10, 2004, 04:20:35 PM

Quote from: Buddha's Sister Tokeinator on March 10, 2004, 04:18:46 PM

Also, the battery box is a bass roll-off which should eliminate any distortion problems.

only if the mic is not overloading....but this should not be a problem at a dylan show...but for a kid rock show...well dont get me started....

FWIW, the Sony DAT deck mod from Oade does a great job at stopping this problem. It gives an extra 20db to the recorder and stops a lot of overloading. Of course, it may not help the mics.

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: Chapper on March 11, 2004, 04:03:03 AM

Quote from: Buddha's Sister Tokeinator on March 10, 2004, 04:18:46 PM

Hey Marc.... I almost always use them line-in -- it seems to give more play with the levels. Also, the battery box is a bass roll-off which should eliminate any distortion problems. The AD-20 also helps get rid of overage.

Perhaps this has changed with some of the newer battery boxes, but the bass roll-off only works when going line in.  

FWIW: I always ran my 943's line in.

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: dklein on March 12, 2004, 01:50:05 AM

Quote from: Chapper on March 11, 2004, 04:03:03 AM

Quote from: Buddha's Sister Tokeinator on March 10, 2004, 04:18:46 PM

Hey Marc.... I almost always use them line-in -- it seems to give more play with the levels. Also, the battery box is a bass roll-off which should eliminate any distortion problems. The AD-20 also helps get rid of overage.

Perhaps this has changed with some of the newer battery boxes, but the bass roll-off only works when going line in.  

FWIW: I always ran my 943's line in.

You got it Chapper.  The rolloff frequency is a function of the input impedance.  When you switch to line in, the rolloff frequency drops so low it's inaudible.  I can't remember the impedance for an m1 (? 4700 and 47k ?)   That would mean the rolloff occurs at 1/10 the frequency that would occur on mic in.

Title: Re:sound pro cards sensitive enough to go line in?
Post by: Kindguy on March 12, 2004, 12:54:50 PM

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Perhaps this has changed with some of the newer battery boxes, but the bass roll-off only works when going line in.  
FWIW: I always ran my 943's line in.

umm Never knew that. Would this effect running mic in on a camcorder?

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