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Title: What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: Tye on March 13, 2004, 02:34:32 PM
I'm looking to get some good sounding mics but I can't afford a bunch of $ right now.  I found these Oktavas what do you think of them.
Oktava MK012  
(http://www.trilogyproductions.com/partz/cap2.jpg)
$255 for a matched pair.

Oktava MK319
(http://www.oktava.net/ok319.gif)
$99 each
And some others

Nady SCM900
(http://www.americanmusical.com/images/b/p12233b.jpg)
$79.99
ADK Package Anyone ever hear of Generis mics?
(http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/18/78/0e_1.JPG)
$99

 I really like the matched Oktava's MK012 I hear they are good mics.


Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on March 13, 2004, 02:57:36 PM
I'd ask for some sort of proof that they are really matched. Otherwise you might as well wait for them to go on sale at GC again.

mIKE B
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: Tye on March 13, 2004, 03:03:25 PM
What is GC?
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: caymanreview on March 13, 2004, 03:05:06 PM
guitar center
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: BCostigan on March 13, 2004, 03:38:42 PM
If size/stealth isn't an issue I'd look at a pair of ADK a-51s.   They are really nice sounding mics for the price!

Generis is somehow a part of ADK...though I don't know exactly what the difference is (if there is one).
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: mgleason007 on March 13, 2004, 03:40:14 PM
If those mk012's really are matched that's not a bad price.  If you want something for less $ and is going to be stealthable look at www.soundprofessionals.com
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on March 13, 2004, 06:57:51 PM
Get the ADKs.  If size is a problem, get ADK SCs.  They are as costly as those Oktavas (unless you get The Deal at GC) and they are much better...

Of course, I'm biased...

Terry
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: Tye on March 13, 2004, 08:25:03 PM
How can I tell if it is a true matched pair? Are the serial numbers in order? example 1234 & 1235
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: jpschust on March 13, 2004, 09:04:03 PM
serial numbers in order doesn't neccesarily mean matched pair- it just means they likely came off the same production.  more than likely you won't find a sequential number at a place like gc.  a true matched pair means that someone needed to plot the fq responses from each mic and they match eachother.  so for a true matched pair you need to see the matching plots.
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: Tye on March 14, 2004, 12:04:46 PM
So what do you guys think about the Oktava MK012 ? Are they good for both small clubs and ampitheatres?
 What will happen if they are not a true matched pair? Will I get nothing but feedback if they get too close?
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: teajay on March 14, 2004, 06:39:02 PM
from what i understand Oktava doesn't have the best quality control (although it has improved recently some people say). So the parts inside the bodies fo the mics may vary. So basically, worst case scenario, you have two of the "same" microphones, but since they have different parts, they will sound very different sonically.. I'm not sure of how bad it can get either.

But i'm gonna throw in another recommendation for the ADK's :D
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: Tye on March 14, 2004, 09:51:48 PM
Ok so it seems like ADK's are the way to go. Do I have to get a matched pair? I found a site called http://www.newsoundcard.com/g/garvin/default.asp?S=500&A=F&SearchText=adk&PCategoryID=-1 (http://www.newsoundcard.com/g/garvin/default.asp?S=500&A=F&SearchText=adk&PCategoryID=-1)
They have a  A51 Type V with shock mount and bag for $149. What is the diffrence between the Type V and the High Spl?   :headphones:  
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: Sugarite on March 14, 2004, 10:36:25 PM
I don't recommend large diaphram condensers for taping, they don't have good/consistent off-axis response, and they're cumbersome.  They're best suited for close micing in the studio.  I recommend Rode NT5's or an NT4 (self-powered stereo mic), both can be found cheap new on eBay.
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: mterry on March 14, 2004, 10:47:32 PM
So what do you guys think about the Oktava MK012 ? Are they good for both small clubs and ampitheatres?
 What will happen if they are not a true matched pair? Will I get nothing but feedback if they get too close?

No

The polar patterns will be slightly different

Will this effect you? Of course not. If you are using the mics for "serrious" applications, I'd look into matching. But with what I iamgine you will be using them for, then you need not worry.

Best of luck finding new toys!!!
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: save on March 14, 2004, 11:42:10 PM
Quote
I don't recommend large diaphram condensers for taping, they don't have good/consistent off-axis response, and they're cumbersome.  They're best suited for close micing in the studio.  I recommend Rode NT5's or an NT4 (self-powered stereo mic), both can be found cheap new on eBay.

i'd have to disagree.  every LD adk recording i've heard smokes the NT5/4 recordings i've heard.  not sure why you think LD aren't good for taping?  check out some ADK TL & Neumann U89 recordings and i think you'll change your mind.  i'd definitely say get the ADK LE's out of your choice of mics.  
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: jpschust on March 14, 2004, 11:52:27 PM
I don't recommend large diaphram condensers for taping, they don't have good/consistent off-axis response, and they're cumbersome.  They're best suited for close micing in the studio.  I recommend Rode NT5's or an NT4 (self-powered stereo mic), both can be found cheap new on eBay.

are you kidding me?  the tlm series sounds incredible from far back.  have you ever used the omni setting for a room sound in a studio, not close mic'd?  sounds pretty fantastic.  I think your statement is a pretty huge generalization.
Title: Re:What do you think of these Oktavas ?
Post by: silentmark on March 15, 2004, 12:29:07 PM
Ok so it seems like ADK's are the way to go. Do I have to get a matched pair? I found a site called http://www.newsoundcard.com/g/garvin/default.asp?S=500&A=F&SearchText=adk&PCategoryID=-1 (http://www.newsoundcard.com/g/garvin/default.asp?S=500&A=F&SearchText=adk&PCategoryID=-1)
They have a  A51 Type V with shock mount and bag for $149. What is the diffrence between the Type V and the High Spl?   :headphones:  


Ummm download some shows & listen with your own ears and buy what you like. Oktava's STILL get a bad rap for no reason ...