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Title: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on March 30, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Hi there folks.
Long retired taper still has about 500 masters (most are sbd, Shoeps or Nak recordings) that need to be transferred. I can't do it myself and really need the help. About 50 or so of my masters have already been completed and uploaded to Dime, you can search "billydee" there to get an idea of what's been done already.

Many are from the Philadelphia area including about 150 of which are from the Chestnut Cabaret.

They mostly run from 1983 thru about 2001 with the heaviest period being the 80's. This is a very diverse collection with some stuff you're all familiar with and some other very rare stuff.
I do have a reasonably detailed spreadsheet/list available if anyone is serious and would like to help. Please message or email me with your email address for the list.

Thanks, billydee
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: dorrcoq on March 30, 2012, 01:45:57 PM
I might be interested in a few cassette transfers.  I can't do DAT, and I don't know what "PCM Beta" is. :)  A list would be cool, though.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on March 30, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
I might be interested in a few cassette transfers.  I can't do DAT, and I don't know what "PCM Beta" is. :)  A list would be cool, though.
I'll forward you the list.
PCM was the digital format we used prior to the arrival of DAT. I started doing PCM in 1986. PCM used the video tracks of a Beta or VHS videotape recorder to lay down the digital signal.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: kirk97132 on March 30, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
I'd like to see the list and help there were some great shows at the Chestnut Cabaret. Many of which I was at.  I can't do the PCM transfers, just don't have the gear. 
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: dorrcoq on March 30, 2012, 03:42:39 PM
So for the PCM would you have to play them on an old Beta machine?  Or would they play on a VHS (not that I have a working one of those, either)?
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on March 30, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
You would first need a PCM machine plugged into the video out from the Beta/VHS machine , something like a Sony PCM F1 which is what I used then and still have. There were a few other Sony models made, the F1 was the "portable" version weighing in at about 10 lbs. Lugging this stuff around was quite a task, successfully sneaking it into a show was a major miracle.

Wikipedia has a nice writeup on the PCM technology.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: ellaguru on March 30, 2012, 04:16:25 PM
im up for any cassette/DAT transfers that i can help with.  might be a good idea to farm out artists to transfer-helpers that may know the music better than others.  i have 0.0 knowledge of hippy rock but i can track & title any mike watt, mudhoney, sonic youth, post punk stuff.

chris
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on March 30, 2012, 04:18:57 PM
im up for any cassette/DAT transfers that i can help with.  might be a good idea to farm out artists to transfer-helpers that may know the music better than others.  i have 0.0 knowledge of hippy rock but i can track & title any mike watt, mudhoney, sonic youth, post punk stuff.

chris
The majority of this ain't hippy-rock. I'll forward you the list, I think you'll like it.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: ellaguru on March 30, 2012, 04:22:33 PM
ok nice..i pm'd my email addy

chris
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: H₂O on March 31, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
Ideally you should use a PCM-601 esd for the pcm transfers as it has spdif io so you can transfer digitally (this is the only PCM box I know of with this feature)

More than likely the tapes are beta
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on April 01, 2012, 03:31:18 PM
Ideally you should use a PCM-601 esd for the pcm transfers as it has spdif io so you can transfer digitally (this is the only PCM box I know of with this feature)

More than likely the tapes are beta
Point well made on the PCM transfers. 601s are few and far between at this point but that's really the only way to do it.
95% of my PCMs are on beta tapes (16bit), the others VHS tapes @ 14bit
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: heath on April 02, 2012, 09:33:23 AM
I've got a few F1/601 setups here and would be willing to look at a few as long as you are not in a rush.

h
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on April 02, 2012, 09:48:59 AM
I've got a few F1/601 setups here and would be willing to look at a few as long as you are not in a rush.

h
Definitely not in a rush....I'll forward you the list, which you can sort on PCM pretty easy.
Thx
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: kirk97132 on April 02, 2012, 01:13:20 PM
Heath if you are doing the PCM's there are a couple I'd like to get copies of from you ;D
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: heath on April 02, 2012, 01:18:24 PM
yep
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: tapjunkie on April 02, 2012, 03:21:50 PM
I would be willing to help out with some.  Please send a list.  I have a Nak CR7 that someone gave me for cassettes and can get another DAT easily.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on April 02, 2012, 03:43:55 PM
Folks, the response to help with this has been slightly overwhelming  :o which I'm very thankful for BTW  :)  but I need to call a timeout now until I sort thru and get things moving with the first several volunteers.
Thanks y'all, I'll get back to you soon.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: dorrcoq on April 02, 2012, 03:55:12 PM
Folks, the response to help with this has been slightly overwhelming 

Nothing like a sniff of uncirculated masters to get guys excited :)
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: EarlyMorningRain on April 03, 2012, 11:31:07 AM
I sent an email to get your list (received it today-thanks!), for any of there that may be in PCM format that I would be interested in (in which that is a format I can not work with), any chance my transfer requests could get tagged onto someone else's list who may be doing any PCM transfers? At most there are 5, but if I had to limit that down then my PCM show count is 2.

Thanks!
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: daspyknows on April 08, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
I have a pcm501 but in Ca.  Nick aka schoepsnbox is in Philly and transferred a bunch of my dats.  send him a pm.  he also has a friend who might be able to do the cassettes.  Any chance of posting the masters that are transferred on planet rock.  masters free leech over there are the torrents last longer since they dont get deleted.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: billydee on April 09, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
I have a pcm501 but in Ca.  Nick aka schoepsnbox is in Philly and transferred a bunch of my dats.  send him a pm.  he also has a friend who might be able to do the cassettes.  Any chance of posting the masters that are transferred on planet rock.  masters free leech over there are the torrents last longer since they dont get deleted.
I think I'm doing ok with the responses here so far and should be in good shape for all the formats. Thank you for the suggestions, I will keep them in mind.

I have no real preference about where the transferred masters get posted, Planet Rock would be fine. Never used it myself but I'll assume from your suggestion it's a fine place.
Title: Re: HELP-Appx 500 "billydee masters" Cassette, PCM Beta, DAT formats need transfer
Post by: ellaguru on April 15, 2012, 11:00:45 AM
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=154927.0

go!