Used to tape years ago. Miss recording shows, still go to a fair amount of shows with my Wife.
Thinking about grabbing a set of 4061's and a recorder. I have a mini-me leftover but I'm thinking about just going 4061s->BBox->recorder.
Thoughts?
You're about to get a flood of responses. Most (if not all) of them will tell you to get the M10.
The battery life is scary. And it's easy to use.
If you don't need the XLRs, the M10 is considerably smaller...
Small and terrific sounding rig = 4061>MMA>M10. Battery life is scary, and if you want to (cough) st*@/th (cough) it is tiny enough to do so.
Yet another vote from me for the M10. Honestly, that bastard is a king among recorders and will be remembered fondly throughout the ages. And yes, for a third time the battery life is scary. It just won't quit. Someone at Sony made a pact with the devil for that one.
dr-100mkii
- bigger
- has xlrs (balanced input) that support +48 phantom
- has SPDIF input (can be finiky - works only with gear that properly formats the SPDIF signal (V3 w/ firmware update, USBPre2, etc))
- can hot swap batteries (has dual batteries)
- pre-amp is good
m10
- tiny
- unbalanced input only
- pre-amp is ok but external is recommended
- incredible battery life (20+ hours on a pair of AA's)
You actually think the tascam has a nicer preamp than the sony?
According to the review tonedeaf did - the tascam's pre amp worked well using condenser mics in loud environments which is the first low end recorder I have heard to be the case
I'm very new to DR100II and don't really like so much menu. I love the M10. DR100 2 weeks old and likely for sale. Extra battery, AC power, 16 GB card. I'm sure it is a swell unit. I just have steep learning curves for most things. And ... change = bad, same thing = good.
Quote from: H₂O on April 24, 2012, 03:16:30 PM
According to the review tonedeaf did - the tascam's pre amp worked well using condenser mics in loud environments which is the first low end recorder I have heard to be the case
And Tonedeaf has also said that the M10 has an excellent preamp (for those not looking to power condenser mics with it). 4061>MMA>M10 would be a great combo, though I'd be inclined to substitute the less expensive CA-9200 for the MMA, which also works well with the DPA's.
Im not inclined to vote one way or the other on which has better pre. I think my own criteria might be different than others anyway. Most people seem to rely on noise specs as the basis for their evaluation. All I do is listen to what the damn thing sounds like which is fairly subjective to what flavor I want from my pre. I will say this.... for less than 300 dollars the dr100mkii sounds freaking amazing. See sample in the link below.
http://archive.org/details/macpodz2012-04-19.mk4_16bit
I won't opine on the pres but if your planned rig is 4061>BB>deck then the M10 is all you need and is smaller and a little less expensive.
Conversely, having XLR inputs and P48, the DR-100mkII is more versatile and could be more useful to you if you wanted to run phantom-powered mics later.
Off topic, but get the higher sensitivity 4060s. I run DPA 4060s > DPA battery box > Tascam DR-07. Used to use the DPA MMA6000 preamp but I think the sensitivity of 4060s is just right for use at concerts so I switched to a simple battery box.
Quote from: faninor on April 25, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
Off topic, but get the higher sensitivity 4060s. I run DPA 4060s > DPA battery box > Tascam DR-07. Used to use the DPA MMA6000 preamp but I think the sensitivity of 4060s is just right for use at concerts so I switched to a simple battery box.
Good to know. Which BB are you using?
Quote from: faninor on April 25, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
Off topic, but get the higher sensitivity 4060s. I run DPA 4060s > DPA battery box > Tascam DR-07. Used to use the DPA MMA6000 preamp but I think the sensitivity of 4060s is just right for use at concerts so I switched to a simple battery box.
I second that for anyone but a dedicated stack taper.
Quote from: fmaderjr on April 25, 2012, 01:35:09 PM
Quote from: faninor on April 25, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
Off topic, but get the higher sensitivity 4060s. I run DPA 4060s > DPA battery box > Tascam DR-07. Used to use the DPA MMA6000 preamp but I think the sensitivity of 4060s is just right for use at concerts so I switched to a simple battery box.
I second that for anyone but a dedicated stack taper.
Or in small rooms (under 500 people). I've been too many overly loud SPL shows over the years in smaller clubs.
I use the DPA MPS6010:
http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/products.aspx?c=Item&category=128&item=24261
DPA makes a bunch of similar battery boxes with different output connectors. I don't stack tape anymore now that I use the 4060s, but I've recorded at loud, small clubs and only once have I had any distortion due to high SPL -- and that was very brief (maybe 10 seconds out of the entire show).
The tascams battery life is AWFUL, especially compared to the M10
Well, this and other threads convinced me to pick up the M10. Having phantom power would have been nice, but the battery life of the Sony is what sold me.
I guess that makes me CA-11 > CA-9100 > M10.
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