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Title: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: wsphansam on March 18, 2004, 01:30:41 AM
I've got a problem transferring from the jb3 to computer and from computer to jb3.

 When I transfer from JB3 to computer it will transfer fine for 30 sec to 1 minute then just stops. An error message then pops up and says: "The operation failed. Ensure player is properly connected before trying again."

And when transferring from computer to jb3 again it transfers ok for a while then stops. Anyone got a solution, reformat?  BTW firmware is 1.40.06 and transferring via USB.
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 18, 2004, 06:56:26 AM
well, usb sux, sorry, but it does, get your firewire running and youi'll prolly be fine!!

honestly, re-install the creative disc, if that doesnt help, try a diff usb port, and lemme know!!
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: wsphansam on March 18, 2004, 11:20:19 AM
i've done both those, the re-install and different port, no luck though.
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: ryz on March 18, 2004, 02:40:43 PM
I have had a similar problem using firewire, while usb 1.1 has been fine.  maybe you could cite which one you are having a problem with.  no matter though i woudl recomend posing it to the njb3 tapers group at yahoo.  (maybe it is in the faq?)  let me know if you come up with anything.

ryan.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/njb3tapers (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/njb3tapers)
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: caymanreview on March 18, 2004, 05:42:45 PM
nomadness.net the first stop for all jb3 problems
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 19, 2004, 02:59:40 AM
also, theres about 100 jb3 threads guyz, lets try and keep em down, post q's in someone else thread
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 19, 2004, 08:33:41 AM
not trying to be a dick, but we NEED a jb3 forum, WTF??? there IS about 150 diff threads on em, come on skalinder, make it happen!!!
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 19, 2004, 08:34:30 AM
on another note, if the jb3 forum DOES go thru, id be willing to make it happen/mod it/whatever
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: Ccronks on March 29, 2004, 12:45:00 AM
Did the original poster get this fixed?  I am getting the same error as well.   I got all 10 gigs of my mp3s transferred there origianlly and it was working fine until I tried to import my latest recording.  I get's to some point in the upload (anywhere from 10 - 70%) and then I get that error.  Any ideas?  I have no idea what firmware version I am using (how do I check that?), and I am transferring through USB.  Thanks!
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 29, 2004, 09:47:02 AM
check firmware by going into settings on the jb3, then "about"
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: Ccronks on March 29, 2004, 01:57:44 PM
Ahh, ok I am 1.32.01
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 29, 2004, 02:03:34 PM
update drivers/firmware and give it another go
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: wsphansam on April 02, 2004, 01:17:30 AM
Sorry to abandon this thread there for awhile. No, never did get this resolved. I uninstalled everything then rebooted it, and thought I had it fixed when the error message came back up at like 60% done instead of like 10% before. And also I am running 1.40.06, so i'm running out of ideas. If I upgrade to firewire will I get this same problem?
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on April 02, 2004, 09:16:14 AM
hmmm, that really sux bro, sorry to hear that!!

umm, i guess firewire may be one of your last options unfortunately!!

Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: wsphansam on April 02, 2004, 09:24:57 AM
Yeah looks like firewire is it, do you think I'll still get the same problem with it though?
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on April 02, 2004, 09:28:44 AM
i dunno honestly, but it cannot hurt, plus, your uploads will be alot quicker!!

so you really cant go wrong there;-)

do you have the firewire cable??

its really easy to install actually, just plug it in and let your comp search for the new connection
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: phishn on April 02, 2004, 10:22:19 AM
Bean..you're such a JB3 slut...  :P
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on April 02, 2004, 10:38:06 AM
hehehe, how have i slutted tho??

im just a jb3 fluffer, along w/ AKG and grace!!

;-);-)
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: wsphansam on April 02, 2004, 04:48:37 PM
yeah bean i've got the cable, came with my jb3. Any one firewire card better then another?
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on April 03, 2004, 09:11:52 AM
i doubt it bro, just sending and receiving data, doesnt have to be fancy at all, 20 bux will hook ya up at any local store really;-)
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: wsphansam on April 04, 2004, 06:20:25 PM
Cheapest one I could fine in town was 36 dollars, so I went to ebay and scored one for 10, hopefully this will solve things.
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: dklein on April 05, 2004, 02:03:53 AM
It may not fix it for you.  I get the same thing sometimes on firewire.  I have 2 possible fixes

1. don't touch your pc while transferring - if I start doing stuff it's more likely to fail.  Maybe the JB3 doesn't do well if the pc bus gets busy

2. this is weird but consistently works.  Record a few seconds of nothing on line-in.  Stop, get out of record mode and then try again.   No clue why, but it has consistently worked.  I haven't had to do this since the most recent driver update but give it a try.
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: Cooker on September 28, 2004, 08:39:42 AM
i am having this problem again. not touching the pc at all while transferring, last night i even yanked the wifi card to see if that helped.

i will try the second suggestion dave had above, and see if that works.

not sure which driver i'm using (playcenter is not installed, just notmad), but my firmware is 1.40 - and i had similar problems with 1.32
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: F.O.Bean on September 28, 2004, 02:32:00 PM
i had a 'firmware problem' the other nite, out of nowhere, i just had to reload my OS, but it was weird, i hadnt touched it since i cleared it for moedown, pulled it out, went to turn it on, nothing, only showed the rescue mode screen, it was weird :P
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: TeamJa on July 31, 2005, 03:00:24 AM
any solution here?  i have the same problem running USB and don't have the funds for a firewire card.... :(
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: TeamJa on July 31, 2005, 05:19:52 PM
pawned an old skill saw, bought the firewire card and it works like a charm...
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: Ray76 on July 31, 2005, 06:40:22 PM
pawned an old skill saw, bought the firewire card and it works like a charm...

congrats man,i know it was frustratin'

+T
Title: Re:Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: tms on August 03, 2005, 02:00:02 PM
It may not fix it for you.  I get the same thing sometimes on firewire.  I have 2 possible fixes

1. don't touch your pc while transferring - if I start doing stuff it's more likely to fail.  Maybe the JB3 doesn't do well if the pc bus gets busy

2. this is weird but consistently works.  Record a few seconds of nothing on line-in.  Stop, get out of record mode and then try again.   No clue why, but it has consistently worked.  I haven't had to do this since the most recent driver update but give it a try.

Isn't there a difference between USB cables, also?  I was under the impression that you need a good USB 2 rated cable.  Maybe a shit cable is bugging up the works?
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: The Kilted Taper on August 03, 2005, 02:01:17 PM
pawned an old skill saw, bought the firewire card and it works like a charm...

How much was the card you bought that you needed to pawn old tools???
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: JackoRoses on August 03, 2005, 02:08:18 PM
mine just started to so this, this past weekend.
I needed to empty the contents onto disk for a festival.
It would upload a few tracks (maybe 1gb -2 gbs) then after it was done uploading
a track it would then disconnect.
I would close the center out pull the usb cable and then reconnect the jb3.
Everything synched back up and I would repeat. It did this several times.
I thought it might have been overheating since the JB3 had about 15+ gbs of music on it.
I flipped the JB3 over and proceeded again.
It still did it to me so I am not too sure either.
Nothing changed in my setup other then I moved..
I am just glad I was able to get 3 or 4 tracks up before it would disconnect.
I had too many things to do, to babysit it all day.
I don't have firewire yet but maybe soon...
Oh I might add that after I wiped the drive clean and recorded this past weekend
I then xfered those shows onto the hard drive and it did not give any problems at all.
So maybe the drive was too full and it was just heating up?
I have not ever had a overheat issue out in the field so I am not sure about that either..
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: momule on August 03, 2005, 02:41:32 PM
Just FYI I posted this along time ago in the Jb3 thread.

I have 3 of these currently Installed In my machines and have two friends running them aswell . Easiest piece of hardware I have ever installed ,WD got there shit together when they put this card together and ya can't hardly beat the price.. I like having a card from someone that has been in the game for awhile and would prolly have decent/Non buggy drivers ... sure enough..

you can find them on ebay for under $10 shipped..
http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTERN-DIGITAL-2-Port-1394-FIREWIRE-PCI-CARD-for-PC_W0QQitemZ5794003318QQcategoryZ64458QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: TeamJa on August 04, 2005, 07:36:37 PM
it was only 25 bones, but when you're living in rural montanta, money is pretty hard to come up on...but great tapes are easy to come up on!

 ;)
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: 1st set only on August 05, 2005, 12:44:34 PM
i didnt read this to see if this got resolved but i have had this problem before.

here is a solution that works for me.

transfer only one file at a time. i only have problems when itransfer both sets.
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: Benny on August 07, 2005, 05:57:26 PM
I tried searching the FAQ's but didn't see anything that was quite in line with my problem:

I am trying to do a transfer to my PC from my second JB3 but the PlayCenter (v. 3.02.50) is not recognizing it. I have tried to connect it via firewire and USB to no avail. The little Windows bubble pops up that it found new hardware though...

The firmware version on the JB3 is 1.40.06p and I have tried multiple firewire cables as well. My first JB3 has version 1.32.02p on it and I have never had any problem transfering from it.

I downloaded the Nomad Explorer to my computer so I could dump the JB3 and install another firmware version, but it is not recognized through that application either. I would rather avoid installing the newer version without backing up my recordings first (there's a Phil show from Red Rocks a couple weeks ago running split omni's that sounds great!!). Any suggestions? Master Bean, you out there?  ;)

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: MarkF on August 08, 2005, 05:04:35 PM
Benny,

I am using XP pro with 4 user accounts on it.  It seems that if I plug the JB3 in with the firewire when there is more than 1 user logged in, the Creative playcenter starts on all the accounts/users, but the files only show up on one.  I have to switch to each of the logged on users and see which one shows the files.  If I am the only one logged in, it starts up just fine.

Does any one know how to keep the playcenter from starting up on all logged in accounts on XP pro.  I am the only one that uses it.  There is need for it to be on my 6 year olds and wifes account.
Title: Re: Help me out w/ JB3 transfers
Post by: Benny on August 08, 2005, 07:44:36 PM
Hey Mark- Thanks for the reply. I am the only user on the PC (I don't even think there's another ID registered...).  Another funny little twist, this JB3 used to transfer fine and then one day I ran into this damn problem  ??? >:(