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Title: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: robotaper on September 06, 2012, 01:18:34 PM
I just picked up a pair of M210's and am looking for a quick windscreen solution (can't wait for the special order W20's).  Any suggestions?  I need something for the weekend of 09/14.

Mic diameter is 21mm.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: jlykos on September 06, 2012, 01:36:02 PM
The dpa UA0896 will do the job very well.  I have used them for 10 years and they are fantastic.  I really wouldn't bother using anything else in any situation.  Avoid the "official" Gefell windscreens for those mics.  I bought a pair for $50+ and used them like twice before discovering that they couldn't stop fart breeze.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: robotaper on September 06, 2012, 02:09:41 PM
The dpa UA0896 will do the job very well.  I have used them for 10 years and they are fantastic.  I really wouldn't bother using anything else in any situation.  Avoid the "official" Gefell windscreens for those mics.  I bought a pair for $50+ and used them like twice before discovering that they couldn't stop fart breeze.

Awesome.  Thanks for the tip.  I've heard of those DPA's being very versatile and "go to" for many around here.  I'll give those a shot.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: ellaguru on September 06, 2012, 03:08:08 PM
i use the big round neuman ones i got from dan @ dale pro audio.  the work quite well, unless you are needed to use them in a 'dead rat' situation

chris

/edit...i think they are these:
http://www.daleproaudio.com/p-3774-neumann-ws100-windscreen-for-km-100-or-km-180-microphone.aspx
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: Myco on September 06, 2012, 03:56:08 PM
I use all of the MG200 series of capsules & bodies, and this is what me & my friends who also have these use.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/162947-REG/AKG_6000_H_06240_W_32_Windscreen.html

Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: Fried Chicken Boy on September 06, 2012, 06:39:52 PM
The dpa UA0896 will do the job very well.

x2.  They are a great go-to windscreen for just about any microphone around that diameter.  Pretty good transparency for a screen of that size and fairly easy to find dead rats to fit them if you need additional wind protection.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: SmokinJoe on September 06, 2012, 09:12:53 PM
I use windtech 1300/1400/whatever they are for light duty, and the "big ass shure" for outside fest.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: OOK on September 06, 2012, 09:49:20 PM
I use windtech 1300/1400/whatever they are for light duty, and the "big ass shure" for outside fest.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  100% agree!
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: Myco on September 07, 2012, 12:08:18 AM
I think we all use big ass shure's for outside fests. :-)
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: John Willett on September 07, 2012, 04:15:11 AM
I just picked up a pair of M210's and am looking for a quick windscreen solution (can't wait for the special order W20's).  Any suggestions?  I need something for the weekend of 09/14.

Mic diameter is 21mm.

Thanks.

If you were in the UK it would normally be no problem to get you the Genuine Gefell windsields in a very few days.  They could be despatched direct to you from the factory straight away if it was urgent and you contacted any Gefell dealer in the UK.

The Neumann KM series are 22mm so the windshields might be a bit loose.  The Schoeps are 20mm and may be a bit tight, but with only 1mm difference should be OK.



Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: robotaper on September 07, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
Thanks all.  I looked into the AKG type as well.  Those are special order through B&H (7-14 days), so I went with the DPA's.  I use the big Neumanns on my AK40's and have been happy with the results.  I might grab another pair of those.  I've also used the Big Ass Shures as well.  All good suggestions.

I'm hoping to have it all squared away for T-ride Blues and Brews next weekend...
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: taperj on September 07, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
You moving to MG for good Rob?
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: robotaper on September 07, 2012, 03:04:04 PM
You moving to MG for good Rob?

Hey J!  I wouldn't characterize it as a permanent move.  I'm testing the waters though.  I was really happy with AK50 recordings I was getting, and I wanted to dabble with some different mics, ...so on and so forth - so I landed on an MG Hyper.  We'll see.  I've always been happy with the Neumanns, and currently have no plans for moving away from them.  I'll be pulling four channels for now, running the Neumanns through the Little Box and MG's through the ACM V3.  I've been consistently happy with AK40>Naiant combo so that seems like a pretty solid spot to sit for now.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: Myco on September 07, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
You moving to MG for good Rob?

Hey J!  I wouldn't characterize it as a permanent move.  I'm testing the waters though.  I was really happy with AK50 recordings I was getting, and I wanted to dabble with some different mics, ...so on and so forth - so I landed on an MG Hyper.  We'll see.  I've always been happy with the Neumanns, and currently have no plans for moving away from them.  I'll be pulling four channels for now, running the Neumanns through the Little Box and MG's through the ACM V3.  I've been consistently happy with AK40>Naiant combo so that seems like a pretty solid spot to sit for now.

I have a V3, but I find it too crispy sounding with the hypers. With the omni's it's great to cut through any boom if there is any. For the hypers I'd recommend a transformer based pre like the Neve Portico 5012 or the Aerco MP2, or something similar like an Oade brick. I love the Portico, but it's big and bulky and tough to carry around. It sounds sooooooo good in "Silk" mode though, it's tough to give up. I may end up selling it though because I'm looking to downsize and just use the Aerco.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: taperj on September 08, 2012, 02:09:10 AM
You moving to MG for good Rob?

Hey J!  I wouldn't characterize it as a permanent move.  I'm testing the waters though.  I was really happy with AK50 recordings I was getting, and I wanted to dabble with some different mics, ...so on and so forth - so I landed on an MG Hyper.  We'll see.  I've always been happy with the Neumanns, and currently have no plans for moving away from them.  I'll be pulling four channels for now, running the Neumanns through the Little Box and MG's through the ACM V3.  I've been consistently happy with AK40>Naiant combo so that seems like a pretty solid spot to sit for now.

Sounds like a great plan, I'll be interested to hear your opinions after you've run them for a while. I've heard many a great recording from the m210's, I don't think you'll be dissatisfied.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: OOK on September 08, 2012, 10:57:18 AM
You moving to MG for good Rob?
I was really happy with AK50 recordings I was getting, and I wanted to dabble with some different mics, ...so on and so forth - so I landed on an MG Hyper. 

Just my opinion but the Gefel 210 will smoke the Neuman AK50.  I am very familar with the 210's and ak50 and to me there is no comparison.  AK50 is the only neumann cap I don't like.  I find it just sounding flat, where the 210's sound much fuller and well balanced and one of the best if not the best hyper on the market.

Peace OOK
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: SmokinJoe on September 10, 2012, 07:15:10 PM
The Gefell hypers always amaze me. I've never pulled a bad tape with them.

Back to wind screens for a moment, we had a 1 day festival Saturday, really windy, like merch tables blowing away, etc. I sas running Gefell cards and big ass Shures, and that was the first time I've had rumble with the Shures. I switched on the 50hz HPF on the V3 and that was enough. Interestingly my daughter had the AT4050ST (mis/side LD) with a U89 windscreen which wasn't bothered as much. I wonder if it had to do with direction, wind was coming from behind the mics, right into the musicians faces.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: F.O.Bean on September 14, 2012, 05:11:23 AM
I use those Large DPA screens w/ dead rats/Rode Dead Kittens indoors, and the same screens plus a pair of "big ass shures" for outdoors :) Just so Im covered in ALL my situations. I just put my big ass shures away for the fall/winter/spring. I will soak them in oxyclean and let them dry very good, and then put them away til next summer :) Dont forget to wash/dry them at the beginning of festie season next year too ;)
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: Gutbucket on April 04, 2013, 11:52:36 AM
Ran the M210s for the first time a couple weeks ago outdoors at Suwannee Springfest and cobbled together two pair of foam windscreens- a very small screen which simply filled the loose space inside a generic SM58 ball-mic style foam, with a piece of rip-tie velcro holding the large opening of the ball-foam snug around the mic body behind the cap.  Not ideal but functional and got me through without wind noise.  I'll probably pick up some DPA UA0896 for them.

The pair of big ass shures I use on the larger diameter MG M94/MV692 were way too loose on the smaller diameter M210s when I test-fitted them.  Sounds like they fit for others here, think mine are just stretched out or am I missing something?


Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: JD on April 04, 2013, 02:44:32 PM
The pair of big ass shures I use on the larger diameter MG M94/MV692 were way too loose on the smaller diameter M210s when I test-fitted them.  Sounds like they fit for others here, think mine are just stretched out or am I missing something?

I'm geusing yours are streched a bit, I use the big-ass shures on my sms gefells all the time without issues.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: Gutbucket on April 04, 2013, 03:26:23 PM
Good to know, thanks JD.
Title: Re: Gefell M210 Windscreen
Post by: F.O.Bean on April 04, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
Def stretched.