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Title: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on November 02, 2012, 12:21:49 AM
Right now I have a lot of my music on my computer in various forms of mp3s, but I want to get my collection on my computer in FLAC/lossless. I have a Macbook and I was thinking of getting an external cd drive since I will be ripping 100-200 discs and that seemed like a lot of stress to put on the internal cd drive in my laptop. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Suggestions for external CD drive? - Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: page on November 02, 2012, 12:53:41 AM
I've done about that many on my macbook and it's fine so far. Granted, at this stage, I'm not trying to resell mine (if it does, I'll just replace it) so maybe thats a concern, but I'd at least do that.

Oh, and I suggest using XLD for the ripping. (you didn't specify so I thought I'd toss that out there).
Title: Re: Suggestions for external CD drive? - Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on November 02, 2012, 12:17:30 PM
Hmm. Ok. And thanks for the XLD tip.

I'm open to hear what anyone else has to say! TIA
Title: Re: Suggestions for external CD drive? - Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: LEDZEPZOSO on November 15, 2012, 04:26:53 AM
I am on a PC so cost might be different for a MAC. But a replacement DVD/CD burner for my laptop on Ebay runs less then $15. A new Ext DVD/CD burner can be had less then $20 from Buy.com or tiger direct. So either option is not really going to cost you much. I know on my Desktops as soon as a DVD drive show any indication of problems I just order a new one. Not worth the effort to trouble shoot for a new burner available in the $15-20 for desktop. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for external CD drive? - Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: keytohwy on November 15, 2012, 06:32:09 PM
I'll echo just using the internal drive.  I rip via iTunes using error correction into ALAC.  It's worked fine for me.  You can set the preferences such that upon putting a CD in, it automatically rips, then ejects, making it easy to just get a stack a work through them. 

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Suggestions for external CD drive? - Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on November 15, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Thanks for the tips. Once the holidays come around I'll have to muster up the motivation to actually start the process...
Title: Re: Suggestions for external CD drive? - Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: raymonda on November 16, 2012, 09:39:21 AM
Just use the internal drive. I can't count how many CD's I've burned on mine but it far exceeds 200........maybe more like 2000-5000. If not, there are plenty of $35.00 or less options out there.
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on December 18, 2012, 04:02:41 PM
I'm looking to start this process soon. I plan on using XLD to rip discs and xACT to tag on my macbook pro. Should I keep the WAV files or just the FLACs? and what level of FLAC should I use?
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: dnsacks on December 18, 2012, 04:13:22 PM
ARe you ripping commercial disks or cdrs?  If commercial disks, I'd echo the recommendation to rip using itunes into ALAC (apple lossless compression) -- this will significantly automate the process (tagging/etc.) and will provide you with bit-perfect copies of your source disks.

If CDRs, XLD probably does make more sense.  Since you're using a mac, I'd consider ripping everything to apple lossless anyway, as it'll be a lot more convenient to play back/etc.

Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on December 18, 2012, 04:23:03 PM
Mostly commercial cds. I currently have most of the music on my computer as mp3s but figured it was time to upgrade since I have upgraded my playback a little bit. And thanks for the tip. I'm not trying to be difficult, this is just my thought process: I'm not necessarily against using ALAC, but I'm wary of using it bc then the won't be compatible with anything other than Apple products. I realize FLAC would be more work, but I thought it might make my digital collection more versatile for the years to come.
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: dnsacks on December 18, 2012, 04:51:45 PM
JBou -- All good points -- One interesting observation, it's easy to convert between apple lossless and flac using xld (or a variety of other programs) -- I just went through this with my flacs when hooking my uncle up with a (more) robust storage system for his new imac (and giving him a bunch of music for it) -- I was also surprised to find that ALAC is much better represented in the windows and android world than I thought -- windows media player can play them natively and my buddy's android phone liked 'em too.

So, perhaps the convenience of having an all in one solution for ripping and tagging your commercial cds is worth the potential next step of converting to flac via xld if necessary.

Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on December 18, 2012, 05:35:06 PM
it's easy to convert between apple lossless and flac using xld (or a variety of other programs)

I was also surprised to find that ALAC is much better represented in the windows and android world than I thought -- windows media player can play them natively and my buddy's android phone liked 'em too.

I wasn't aware of either of these points. I thought if I converted to ALAC I would be stuck with that and would have to do it again if I ever wanted FLAC copies. In that case, ALAC might be the way to go. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: dnsacks on December 18, 2012, 06:38:08 PM
No worries -- I really didn't want to LIKE apple lossless, but I ran out of counter-arguments . . .
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on December 20, 2012, 02:24:58 PM
When converting to ALAC or FLAC, should I keep a copy of the WAV files? or just the ALAC/FLAC copy?
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: dnsacks on December 20, 2012, 05:02:54 PM
not sure what you gain by keeping the wav, since flac and alac are bit-perfect (and would likely contain metadata that's not savable on the wav)
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: keytohwy on December 20, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
I keep just the ALAC files.
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: ilduclo on December 20, 2012, 05:58:22 PM
check your local thrift stores etc for an XP or Linux box used with a fresh reinstall and not a lot of extraneous programs.  Install freebee EAC and a new cd/dvd drive and a 2 g hard drive. When you're done, you can unload it for what you have into it, would doubt it would run you more than $150.
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: runonce on December 20, 2012, 11:22:56 PM
check your local thrift stores etc for an XP or Linux box used with a fresh reinstall and not a lot of extraneous programs.  Install freebee EAC and a new cd/dvd drive and a 2 g hard drive. When you're done, you can unload it for what you have into it, would doubt it would run you more than $150.

If your going to go that far - might as well download and install VortexBox...

http://vortexbox.org/content/134-About-VortexBox

http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki-index.php?page=Rip+CD+Collection

Its a music server - but also has CD Paranoia as the ripping engine.

It will automatically rip, tag, and fetch cover artwork - just feed it CDs.

When one pops out - put in the next...

You can control the server and ripping from another machine on your network.

Also has a nice mp3/flac mirror function.
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: rastasean on December 22, 2012, 03:54:55 PM
If your going to go that far - might as well download and install VortexBox...
http://vortexbox.org/content/134-About-VortexBox
Also has a nice mp3/flac mirror function.

Nice find! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: jbou on December 31, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
When ripping cds, what are the pros/cons of embedding the album artwork into the files?
Title: Re: Need to rip entire CD collection
Post by: dnsacks on December 31, 2012, 04:55:37 PM
only con I know of is that embedding the artwork into each file takes up more space.