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Title: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 23, 2012, 12:49:43 PM
I just hooked my M-10 up to the computer via usb

At first the card wouldn't be recognized at all.

I retried it and the card was recognized but the files are all symbols and won't open

Then I tred a card reader that is showing the same results

also, the M-10 is reading 00/00 files

am i screwed?

I had some older files on there from last recordings and everything was fine until i recorded again.

any help?
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 23, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
OK

now it won't read/recognize the sd card at all

wtf???
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: F.O.Bean on November 23, 2012, 01:52:35 PM
How long we're the sets and what sample rate?
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 23, 2012, 08:38:14 PM
an hour or less

16/44
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: Myco on November 23, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
Might be a stupid question, but did you format the card in the M10 before you used it, or did you just plug it in and go?
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 24, 2012, 05:31:01 PM
Might be a stupid question, but did you format the card in the M10 before you used it, or did you just plug it in and go?

plug and fly

fucked myself good, didn't i?  :'(

funny thing is, mike. it won't even read a brandy new card now, wtflyinf?
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: adrianf74 on November 24, 2012, 06:08:02 PM
The M10 can be very finnicky with how the MicroSD card is inserted; that said, try taking it out and re-seating the card in the deck.  I don't know if you have a laptop and if it has a card reader but you might want to give that a spin.   

And yes, ALWAYS... ALWAYS... ALWAYS format your card in the deck the first time you go to use it (and periodically from time to time) to save yourself from this headache.
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: udovdh on November 25, 2012, 06:13:38 AM
Aren't the recordings on the internal flash of the M10?
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: earmonger on November 25, 2012, 09:13:01 AM
On the back of the PCM-M10, next to the slot, is a diagram of how the card is inserted.  The card will go into the slot other ways--and will not be read. I did this as a n00b, and then panicked that the PCM-M10 wasn't reading the card. You'd think you were putting it in upside-down and backwards--but that's how it goes in.
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: Lostbrook on November 25, 2012, 09:44:12 AM
I found that inserting the card is not enough.  You need MENU>MEMORY>select MEMORY CARD, otherwise it defaults to internal memory. It won't show the memory card icon on the display until I do that.   Obvious?  Perhaps.   
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: vanark on November 25, 2012, 10:15:48 AM
Aren't the recordings on the internal flash of the M10?

Not if you indicated to use the inserted microSD card.  I rarely use the internal memory since it is easier to transfer the recordings off the card.
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: F.O.Bean on November 25, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
Sounds like a card not sitting correctly AND a non formatted card
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 27, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
the card was used for over 100 recordings with ZERO problems, ever.

it was NEVER removed from the 1st time it was put in the deck. the card was definitely in the correct way.

i formatted probably every 10 sets or so

***there are files on the card. but, they are corrupted. CAN THIS BE FIXED***

EDIT: i also tried the card in a card reader getting the same results with the same corrupted files.

the file names are symbols of the like i've never seen before  ???

totally weird
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: F.O.Bean on November 27, 2012, 04:39:25 PM
That's crazy kev!
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on November 27, 2012, 05:01:46 PM
Try the wave header repair utility, there is a thread on here about it.... 
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 28, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
Try the wave header repair utility, there is a thread on here about it....

searching on here hurts my taint  :P

any help finding it?
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: Craig T on November 28, 2012, 12:42:24 PM
http://live2496.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14

try this
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 28, 2012, 02:06:32 PM
http://live2496.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14

try this

thanks craig  :-*

looks to be a bit , ummm, complicated for my monkey ass

but, i'll give it a whirl this weekend

thanks again

i'll be sure to post the outcome
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: stevetoney on November 28, 2012, 02:34:42 PM
Kev...there's a discussion on corrupt files somewhere in ts history...I'm pretty sure it's in the thread that's attached to that file header repair utility.  I've had hit and miss luck fixing corrupt files, but in order to fix what you have, you gotta be able to figure out what form of corruption you have.  One issue is the header info, another is some zero bit offset or something like that, and there's a third one that I can't remember.  IIRC, that repair utility can only address one of these three issues.

Do you use Audition or CDWave? 

If so, check to see if any of the corrupt files will open in either CDWave or Audition.  If the file loads, but the waveform is just a solid block, you should be able to fix them.  I don't remember exactly what you have to do, but it seems like CDWave will sometimes fix the zero bit offset automatically for you...shit just can't remember.  In Audition, you need to manually go through a routine and manually select the offset bit...you try them one at a time and if that's the issue, once you have the offset bit correctly defined, the waveform will no longer be a solid block waveform, but a good waveform. 

Not sure if this helps...it's all from my really crappy memory banks.
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: tapinfool on November 28, 2012, 04:28:06 PM
i was jst trying to open them in explorer

i'll give it a go in cdwave before i try the other stuff craig mentioned

thanks for the heads-up, steve!
Title: Re: M-10 Files Corrupted?!?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on December 01, 2012, 10:27:49 AM
searching on here hurts my taint  :P

any help finding it?

Try the sticky thread at the top of the Computer etc. forum.