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Title: omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Cactus on March 22, 2004, 06:56:49 PM
hey now , ive come across a few post where they mention omni caps or settings to be the supreme outdoors .. is this just for large diaphragm mics or any.. peace and thanks

 :o
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: BCostigan on March 22, 2004, 07:06:55 PM
Omnis outdoors, especialy spaced or using a jeklin disk, will get some great results.  

The diaphragm size of the mic doesn't matter.


There is no one fool proof mic for any setting or situation.  Cards run in a wide XY will also get good results....just try different things and see what ya like!
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: AttorneyatLaw on March 22, 2004, 08:29:11 PM
Brian,

What does a wide xy outdoors inprove upon over ortf?

 ::)
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: BCostigan on March 22, 2004, 08:39:27 PM
Brian,

What does a wide xy outdoors inprove upon over ortf?

 ::)

Not sure that it would exorbinately inprove things.....

I was merely offering other ideas.
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Tim on March 23, 2004, 01:18:17 PM
Brian,

What does a wide xy outdoors inprove upon over ortf?

 ::)

you're still here?

and Brian is dead on, it doesn't matter if it's LD's or SD's...

I find omni caps to sound completely natural, they work best outdoors because of the lack of reflections off of surfaces (like walls and ceilings). Omni's are my favorite sounding "pattern" and I've started trying them indoors too in good sounding venues when I'm in a very good spot. Go seek out some omni tapes if you haven't listened to many before...
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: wboswell on March 23, 2004, 02:10:13 PM
I have found wider patterns to extremely band/genre dependent.  Since omni are the most natural sounding pattern, you're going to get what you are hearing.  If its heavy on the bass, than that's what you are going to get.  

Anybody have any thoughts on flying omni's higher than other patterns to decrease bass response?
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Tim on March 23, 2004, 02:13:02 PM
hmmmmm interesting thought William.

Omni's don't suffer from proximity effect though like directional mics... my guess is that it wouldn't make as big a difference as with directional mics. But that's just a guess...
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: wboswell on March 23, 2004, 02:25:56 PM
I suppose I am considering crowd reflection dampening HF pickup...  you know, the difference in sound when you bend down at a show and tie your shoes or something
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: twoodruff on March 23, 2004, 02:52:42 PM
I suppose I am considering crowd reflection dampening HF pickup...  you know, the difference in sound when you band down at a show and tie your shoes or something

i try to refrain from banding down at a concert
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Tim on March 23, 2004, 02:53:55 PM
like a Phoenix, rising from the ashes... HE RETURNS!

+T!
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: twoodruff on March 23, 2004, 02:56:12 PM
yep here i am rock you like a hurricane, no word from morrison on the caps, how is the oade?
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Tim on March 23, 2004, 02:57:39 PM
it is great, treating it nicely... going to take it to Vegas and use it to beat back the w00ks!

Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: twoodruff on March 23, 2004, 03:01:26 PM
be sur eto use omnis, that is what this thread is on. be careful it may be mistaken for a bomb.
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: wboswell on March 23, 2004, 03:05:55 PM
I suppose I am considering crowd reflection dampening HF pickup...  you know, the difference in sound when you bend down at a show and tie your shoes or something

i try to refrain from bending down at a concert

we know Trey!  You don't bend down, you bend over!
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Tim on March 23, 2004, 03:09:11 PM
getting through airport security should be interesting!
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: mgleason007 on March 24, 2004, 12:47:33 AM
Brian,

What does a wide xy outdoors inprove upon over ortf?

 ::)

you're still here?

I just looked at his 30 posts... what's the deal?
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Lee on March 24, 2004, 12:52:09 AM
wow... and woodruff makes a reappearance!

How's fatherhood treatin' ya?

+T
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Sean Gallemore on March 24, 2004, 01:41:27 AM
the elusive ben, I can't believe those are still MIA
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: twoodruff on March 24, 2004, 11:20:34 AM
wow... and woodruff makes a reappearance!

How's fatherhood treatin' ya?

+T

she is the apple of my eye, at nearly 9 months she is becoming a handful, I must start drinking again when she is a teenager
Title: Re:omni caps or setting for outdoors..
Post by: Tim on March 24, 2004, 12:46:59 PM
Brian,

What does a wide xy outdoors inprove upon over ortf?

 ::)

you're still here?

I just looked at his 30 posts... what's the deal?

it's Daryan.