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Title: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: jagraham on January 09, 2013, 03:54:28 PM
What's the consensus on this?  In the DR-2d thread I saw someone mention using the USB so as not to damage the flap that protects the SD slot.  I have never used USB to transfer from my Tascams.  I always just put the SD straight into my laptop OR if it is a microSD I use the adapter that came with the card.  My reasoning is - Why introduce another element(the USB cable) that may potentially cause problems if it was deficient in some way?  Same reason I would not put a microSD in an adapter with a recorder that takes SD.  Am I overanalyzing this?

It really bothered me when someone added in their etree source of one of my shows " > USB > PC >" when it was NOT the case...
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on January 09, 2013, 04:00:06 PM
What's the consensus on this?  In the DR-2d thread I saw someone mention using the USB so as not to damage the flap that protects the SD slot.  I have never used USB to transfer from my Tascams.  I always just put the SD straight into my laptop OR if it is a microSD I use the adapter that came with the card.  My reasoning is - Why introduce another element(the USB cable) that may potentially cause problems if it was deficient in some way?  Same reason I would not put a microSD in an adapter with a recorder that takes SD.  Am I overanalyzing this?

It really bothered me when someone added in their etree source of one of my shows " > USB > PC >" when it was NOT the case...

I use a microSD > CFCard adapter in my HD-P2 and have never ahd an issue...  I pull the MicroSD out and use a card reader... 

Since (I'm guessing) that it is computer data that it will have some sort of error-check...

Terry
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: page on January 09, 2013, 04:19:36 PM
I've done it both ways. I used the cable when I had a 722 because getting the card in and out was a pain with the portabrace and as long as you connected everything cold it was ok.

With my D50, I've connected it via USB and I've pulled the card.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: LikeASong on January 09, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
I think you're overanalyzing it. Unless you have a very defficient cable (aka really cheap Chinese cables), the digital signal from the recorder to the SD will be perfectly ok. Moreover, the only actual problems I've ever had with SD cards were them being stuck or broken at the recorder's/camera's SD plug, so I try not to take the cards out when I can. Just my $0'02 :)
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: aaronji on January 09, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
At least with the stuff I have, the transfer is considerably faster if I pull the card.  That being said, when I use the M10, I almost always go with the cable (I  don't like dealing with the tiny cards; plus it avoids the flying card issue:  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=124639.msg1717762#msg1717762 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=124639.msg1717762#msg1717762) :))...






Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: danny3 on January 09, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
When I got my first DR-2d I was a bit wary of the hinge that held the SD card cover. A year later now, having recorded a lot with two of these units, I have no fear of breaking it.  I think it would take some effort and carelessness to do so. I always remove the card to transfer files to pc.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: colinw on January 09, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
I always just plug the recorder in via USB and it always works fine. I also have used microSD cards in the DR2d in their adapter with no issue.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: cd2go on January 09, 2013, 11:40:09 PM
I go USB, I'd rather put the wear on that instead of the card and contacts. And it's easier. I always listen back to the whole recording before deleting/reformatting the card so if there ever comes a time when the transfer screws up, I can go back and recover the file.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 10, 2013, 12:33:03 AM
At least with the stuff I have, the transfer is considerably faster if I pull the card.  That being said, when I use the M10, I almost always go with the cable (I  don't like dealing with the tiny cards; plus it avoids the flying card issue:  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=124639.msg1717762#msg1717762 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=124639.msg1717762#msg1717762) :))...








Exact same with me :)
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 10, 2013, 12:34:04 AM
I go USB, I'd rather put the wear on that instead of the card and contacts. And it's easier. I always listen back to the whole recording before deleting/reformatting the card so if there ever comes a time when the transfer screws up, I can go back and recover the file.

Me too!!!
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: macdaddy on January 10, 2013, 12:57:44 AM
At least with the stuff I have, the transfer is considerably faster if I pull the card.

This.

Though, if I had a complaint about the r44 it is getting the damn card out; I always figured it was the fault of my big fingers...
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: LikeASong on January 10, 2013, 06:03:36 AM
Yep, transfer speeds are usually quick going directly card>card reader... But I'd rather spend 50 more seconds waiting for the files to transfer than put any extra pressure over the SD card and recorder internal stuff.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: bluewingolive on January 10, 2013, 07:51:11 AM
M10: USB cable....leave card alone
HD-p2:  Use Firewire cable....leave card alone

Never an issue with either.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: acidjack on January 10, 2013, 10:13:38 AM
I used to use USB and still do with the M10, but otherwise I just pull the card.  Slow as molasses to use USB vs. a card reader, esp if your machine has a built in card reader.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: dallman on January 10, 2013, 10:47:05 AM
For my decks that use CF and SD cards I always pull the card and put it directly in the reader, it is much faster. There is even more difference now now that the cards are getting bigger and bigger, which seems to amplify the difference between the slower in deck method versus direct card in reader method.  I have never seen any wear or tear on any of the cards as a result of sliding them in or out of the deck. On CF cards, a small amount of care is exercized due to the little pins involved, but again, I have never had a single issue. For the one deck I have that uses SDmicro, I use the USB cable as like others I dont like dealing with the little card.
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on January 10, 2013, 11:22:44 AM
On CF cards, a small amount of care is exercized due to the little pins involved, but again, I have never had a single issue.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=132900.msg1741944#msg1741944

Terry
Title: Re: recorders with SD cards - SD > PC or USB > PC??
Post by: DigiGal on January 10, 2013, 02:39:19 PM
I found [SDHC > Computer], the quickest and easiest and don't have to deal with a mini USB connection which I believe to be a flimsy designed for regular use.