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Title: car audio...
Post by: save on March 24, 2004, 12:53:25 AM
i just bought a 94 nissan sentra for my work car and the factory system has to go!  basically all i'm looking for is a fairly cheap cd player that has rca in so i can liisten to my ipod.  then i need some speakers that sound better than these shitty factory ones.  i'm not looking for anything fancy, just something that doesn't make my ears bleed like my current system.  also would i need an amp?  sorry i know nothing about car audio  :(

is hooking everything up fairly simple or should i pay someone to do it?

thanks,
justin
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: mgleason007 on March 24, 2004, 01:00:49 AM
Hooking everything up is fairly simple if you get a harness for your deck.  Just look through Crutchfield.com ... you know the features you want.  Pioneer speakers offer a really good bang for your $$$.  www.millionbuy.com has really decent prices, or at least did a few years ago when I got my stuff.  You may want to go through crutchfield for your deck even if it's a little more.  They'll give you a harness for your car and good support on the install (with step-by-step instructions from what I remember).

Pioneers are weak on the low end so you'll want to back them up with a sub.  If you don't know what you're doing, you'll want to pay someone to install this.  EDIT:  you'll basically need to know how to completely tear apart your interior and then some to do this properly.  Crutchfield has a lot of good general info, at least they used to in their catalog.  Oh, and no, you won't need an amp, although your speakers will sound better (just like you don't need an amp for headphones).
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: Lee on March 24, 2004, 02:05:28 AM
look at Crutchfield for info, buy somewhere else (unless you like paying MSRP)
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: jlykos on March 24, 2004, 09:41:57 AM
CD head units with RCA outputs are commonly used with external amplifiers, not for other devices like an iPod.  For that, several manufacturers make head units with 1/8" inputs on the face of the unit.  Look into those instead.  For cheap head units, I like Kenwood and Clarion Pro, but I don't know if either have this input.

For inexpensive speakers, I would recommend looking into Infinity, JBL, or Rockford Fosgate (I actually like their speakers better than their amps).

I think that Best Buy and Circuit City also have a lot of this stuff so you may want to wander over to those places as well.
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: Mic D on March 24, 2004, 11:00:09 AM
look at Crutchfield for info, buy somewhere else (unless you like paying MSRP)

For real. Crutchfield is custy central.

iPod's have cassette adapters that you could use with a tape player. Polk also makes fairly good/inexpensive speakers.

As Jaime already suggested, Circuit City and Best Buy are good places to look for most consumer type set-ups.
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: mgleason007 on March 24, 2004, 12:09:03 PM
I think that Best Buy and Circuit City also have a lot of this stuff so you may want to wander over to those places as well.

Yeah, although I wouldn't buy from there.  But it would be a good place to listen to some stuff, although it won't sound at all the same actually in a car.

FWIW the Sony Xplode CD head unit I bought 2 years ago for ~$150 on ebay (another good place) had RCA ins and outs.
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: JeffK on March 24, 2004, 05:47:45 PM
for source units, just find a cd player with an 1/8" input on the front for your ipod, that would be best.  Clarion units are generally nice here.  If you plan to run amps, then check the specs on the preamp outputs, the higher the voltage, the better they'll sound... in general.

Speakers, pretty much anything will sound better than stock, but I'd suggest speakers with external crossovers for your front doors.  Something like the Eclipse point source series.  They should fit into stock locations and the concentrically mounted components sound great for the $$.  If you want more low end, add a 8" or 10" sub, but that will require an amp.  Get better sounding speakers up front than in the rear... after all, YOU drive up front and that's where the sound should be coming from anyways... unless you're used to standing backwards at shows :)

Amps... if you decide to go that route, find something that will run your sub and at least your front 2 door speakers.  MTX is probably decent at a lower price point... although I haven't heard anything from them in years.  I've always stuck with Orion, but they get pricey.  HiFonics is a good choice too for value, the ZX8000 (I think) was a 5 channel amp for ~2-300 new that will run your entire system.
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: save on March 24, 2004, 06:14:42 PM
thanks for the tips everyone +t!  my speakers in the front are 6 1/2" and my back 6 3/4".  would i be better off getting some 6x9's and mount them in a box in my back window?  
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: thoman8r on March 24, 2004, 06:25:45 PM
I was in a similar situation as you, and I ended up purchasing a new Alpine head unit off of ebay for $150, about 100 bucks less than it went for in the stores.  You can buy a cable from crutchfield to hook up the ipod ($15).  Definitely sounds 1000 times better than a cassette adapter or FM modulator.  I'd also suggest the Belkin ipod cup holder adapter and the cigarette lighter charger.  They are great accesories.

Dave
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: mgleason007 on March 24, 2004, 06:27:39 PM
thanks for the tips everyone +t!  my speakers in the front are 6 1/2" and my back 6 3/4".  would i be better off getting some 6x9's and mount them in a box in my back window?  

I wouldn't.  6 3/4" is a really decent size.  You'll get good all-around sound with those speaker sizes.  If you're not looking for a lot of thump just stick with the standard-sized speakers.  Maybe get a 4 channel amp to power them.
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: save on March 24, 2004, 10:52:26 PM
thanks again guys!  now to find a cd player w/ 1/8" input on the front...hmmm
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: jlykos on March 25, 2004, 02:25:56 PM
I have never heard of 6 3/4" speakers.  Put a pair of 6.5" speakers in there and you should be fine.  It is much more trouble than it is worth to get a box or re-cut the rear shelf for 6x9 speakers.  If you really need that much bass, get a 10" sub in a trunk-mounted box with an amp to drive it.
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: save on March 27, 2004, 04:56:10 PM
anybody have any comments on the sony xplod 6 1/2" speakers?  found some decent priced ones on ebay, just wondering if anybody has heard these speakers?
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: mgleason007 on March 27, 2004, 05:55:51 PM
I've never actually heard them but most people I've talked to say they suck.  In my experience all Sony consumer electronics suck.  YMMV.
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: jlykos on March 27, 2004, 07:20:34 PM
anybody have any comments on the sony xplod 6 1/2" speakers?  found some decent priced ones on ebay, just wondering if anybody has heard these speakers?

I am sure that Best Buy and/or Circuit City has a pair of these.  Go to the store and listen for yourself!
Title: Re:car audio...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on March 27, 2004, 10:24:12 PM
Justin, I've purchased off of this guy about 4 times now for different car stereo decks (mostly Pioneer Premiers) and he has very good prices on almost everything Crutchfield sells.  I also purchased a Infinity BassLink system off of him for my wagon ;D  My wagon has since thumped nicely.

Helps if I put the URL ::)  :smoking:  (http://www.ikesound.com)