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Title: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: DSatz on April 19, 2013, 09:49:27 PM
Hi. Does anyone know a source of plastic clips to keep a thin cable attached to an 8 mm-diameter rigid tube?

I mean something like the black plastic C-shaped clips (with a bump in the middle of the "C" for the microphone cable) that come with many microphone stands, but smaller.

--best regards
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: DigiGal on April 20, 2013, 12:19:27 AM
Maybe these'll work...

B&H has them, they're Rode Boompole Clips (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/809778-REG/Rode_BOOMPOLE_CLIPS_Boompole_Cips_Pack_of.html)
(http://media.rodemic.com//images/accessories/boompole_clips/boompole_clips_01.jpg)

Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: flipp on April 20, 2013, 12:26:21 AM
^ ^ ^ those look like the new style WindTech makes but according to the Wind-Tech (http://www.wind-tech.net/Miscellaneous.php) page the smallest they make, the CC-1, fits poles of 15mm diameter
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: DigiGal on April 20, 2013, 08:36:37 AM
Here's the RØDE link for the ones I linked above   http://www.rodemic.com/accessories/boompole_clips
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on April 20, 2013, 09:47:51 AM
8mm is pretty small - .315"

Those look pretty nice, and that they would be quite snug.  But I wonder if they spread open enough to clip over the pole, or if they must be slid on from the end?  Also hard to tell what their size range is - I did not see a spec.

If you pop into an instrument store that sells on stage stands and stuff, they might have some floating around they'd just give you.  Especially if you just need a coupe or few. But maybe not in that small diameter.




Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: DSatz on April 20, 2013, 10:29:42 AM
Those Røde clips look very nice. I'm in NYC, so this week I'll stop by B & H and see whether they fit or not.

This is for use with a Schoeps RC 700 or RC 1200 active extension tube. The RC -- is like a rigid version of an active cable (the attached photo shows a well-known example of its use). I'd like to attach a second capsule to it with an active cable, and the clips are for holding the active cable to the active tube.

--best regards
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: DigiGal on April 20, 2013, 10:42:50 AM
Three Tenors and You're Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Lzi5qXf2k)  Smile  ;D

Good luck, let us know if they do work.

Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: 0vu on April 21, 2013, 06:33:34 AM
I'd be interested in clips for this too.

I've done the same thing a few times and in the absence of any suitable clips I just attached the active cable to the tube using small cable ties (2.5mm x 100mm long) and snipped them off again afterwards. They're cheap to buy in bags of 100/1000 and if you put the locking bit on the underside/stage side of the tube they're pretty discreet; the audience sees just a 2.5mm wide black band round the cable/tube. Incidentally, if possible I'd run the active capsule under the tube mounted capsule and run the cable down the underside of the tube as it looked a little bit neater.
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: DSatz on April 21, 2013, 04:04:29 PM
Alas, the Røde clips are a lot larger than I thought (see photo attached). They're well suited for something else that I happen to need--spare clips for holding a cable to a mike stand, though (as are the WindTech CC-6, which B & H also carries).

So, I guess I'm looking for a miniature analog of the Røde clips. Or maybe these would shrink if I put them in the dryer?

--best regards
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: flipp on April 21, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
From the specs of the Wind-Techs I think the CC-1 is a mini version of the Rode but if you need 3/8" you'll need a micro version, not a mini.

You might want to check with a local mechanic to see if he has anything you can use. I'm pretty sure the Schoeps tube is close enough to a spark plug wire's diameter that you may be able to use a spark plug wire holder unless the mic cable is considerably smaller than the  tube. From my days working in a shop I've seen many configurations of plug wire holders but can't recall any that look like tiny versions of the Rycote back-to-back mic clips as seen here: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=144848.msg1920060#msg1920060 which is really what you need. A mechanic may know of something in that back-to-back style for holding various portions of a car's wire loom.

Good luck, and if you find something please let us know.
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: noahbickart on April 22, 2013, 09:42:46 AM
why not buy an RCY?  ::)
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: F.O.Bean on April 22, 2013, 02:54:23 PM
I know this isnt what ur looking for but what about velcro cable ties in black?
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on April 22, 2013, 03:39:02 PM
why not buy an RCY?  ::)

He just asked for some fifty cent clips, not a $1000 delicate aparatus that does not lend itself to being transported, and which is not length adjustable ;)

Plus, he already has the best schoeps actives.
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: noahbickart on April 22, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
why not buy an RCY?  ::)

He just asked for some fifty cent clips, not a $1000 delicate aparatus that does not lend itself to being transported, and which is not length adjustable ;)

Plus, he already has the best schoeps actives.

I'm attempting (apparently poorly) to tease DSatz, who seemed to be enquiring about an RCY here a while back. I was hoping he'd buy one and tell us how cool it us.  :djsmilie:
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on April 22, 2013, 10:47:12 PM
I'm attempting (apparently poorly) to tease DSatz, who seemed to be enquiring about an RCY here a while back. I was hoping he'd buy one and tell us how cool it us.  :djsmilie:

Buy?  I thought he got all his Schoeps stuff for free? ;)
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: DSatz on April 25, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
it-goes, no, that isn't the situation. There have been exceptions when I've tested new products for Schoeps, a handful of times in 40 years, but I don't like the feeling of being a mooch. Plus I'm biased in favor of Schoeps enough as it is, don't you think? I generally buy any new Schoeps equipment from Posthorn Recordings at the same prices that everyone else pays. Otherwise, I either buy second-hand or not at all.

I'm in the same boat as a lot of other people here: There are items I covet, but it just isn't reasonable (or in some cases possible) for me to spend so much on sound equipment, especially now that I don't make my living as a recording engineer any more. I would gladly buy an RCY (or preferably, one RCY 700 and one RCY 1200) except that they cost nearly $1500 apiece--and I wouldn't have anything to connect them to, since I don't own a VST 62 two-channel amplifier (ca. $1750) or a Colette Y-cable that would let me attach a pair of CMC amplifiers (ca. $900).

And if I did have those things, of course I would also want a KCY cable (~$850) to go with them, no?

But instead, I foolishly squander my money on the mortgage, or traveling to see my new grandbaby, paying down what various credit card companies claim that I owe them, and occasionally seeing a movie or a play (or sometimes a movie of a play--I'm very eager to see Joss Whedon's new Shakespeare movie).

--best regards
Title: Re: Clips for holding a thin cable to a Schoeps "active tube"
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on May 01, 2013, 10:05:11 AM
it-goes, no, that isn't the situation.

Don't spoil it like that! I think we all liked the vicarious fantasy of you getting unlimited free product from Schoeps.