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Title: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Phil Zone on June 19, 2013, 08:25:30 AM
Hi,

I was curious as to whether anyone had any experience with these mics. They look beautiful and have great feature including hypercard, card, and omni heads. Anyone have an opinion on them?

Anyone have any they would be interested in selling as well?

Thank you
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Cheesecadet on June 20, 2013, 02:00:00 PM
I used them for a period of time and always thought they produced nice recordings.  I have since moved on but would not hesitate to use them again and they can be had for a nice price too!
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: F.O.Bean on June 20, 2013, 04:00:50 PM
I taped with a kid at summer camp last month that ran spc4>tinybox(OT)>m10 and his recordings sound pretty damn good. Search the sts9 show from 5/24 and listen to the 3 diff sources. My mk41>lb(OT)>m10 tonedeaf s mk4>psp2>ad2k and kids spc4>tb(OT)>m10 and see if you like what you hear ;)
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Gil on June 20, 2013, 04:08:42 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: F.O.Bean on June 20, 2013, 04:27:03 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

I always forget about those. The naps are good mics too, e specially the lower profile nak 300 "actives" ;)
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: F.O.Bean on June 20, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
Here's that spc4>tinybox(OT)>m10 recording. You can compare it to the other two sources on the LMA ;)

http://archive.org/details/sts92013-05-24.c4s.24bit

Mk41>littlebox(OT)>m10

http://archive.org/details/sts92013-05-24.mk41.lb.m10.flac16

Mk4>psp2>ad2k>dr680

http://archive.org/details/sts92013-05-24.mk4_16bit
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Phil Zone on June 20, 2013, 04:53:35 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

Where can you find the naks? Or buy them
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Gil on June 20, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

Where can you find the naks? Or buy them

Ebay or the Yard Sale, I'd say.
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: F.O.Bean on June 20, 2013, 05:28:38 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

Where can you find the naks? Or buy them

Your best bet is in the ts.com yard sale. What's your TOP priority, mics or a preamp?
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Phil Zone on June 20, 2013, 05:31:22 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

Where can you find the naks? Or buy them

Your best bet is in the ts.com yard sale. What's your TOP priority, mics or a preamp?

It's by far the preamp, by very far. But I'm just snooping around for mics at some point, when I get money saved up enough. I will research for a long time before I buy and like to have it well formulated. I just like everyone's opinion.
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Phil Zone on June 20, 2013, 05:32:00 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

Where can you find the naks? Or buy them

Ebay or the Yard Sale, I'd say.

Are they produced new still?
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: F.O.Bean on June 20, 2013, 05:36:57 PM
I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

Where can you find the naks? Or buy them

Ebay or the Yard Sale, I'd say.

Are they produced new still?

Not to my knowledge. I don't think they've been made for YEARS. They can only be found used in the yard sale or rarely on eBay ;)

like I said in our PM discussions, I'd get a Naiant preamp for your budget. You will be happy with that for a LONG TIME? He'll, I sold my $1,100.00 lemosax preamp and kept my Naiant littleBox with output transformers. I think it's the perfect match for schoeps. In fact, I like it so much, I just bought a 2nd kcy littleBox so I can run at two diff stages at festies ;)
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Cheesecadet on June 20, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
Here is a STS9 show I taped with my old C4s and I think you'll agree it smokes!  :o

http://archive.org/details/sts92007-07-21.flac
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: vanark on June 20, 2013, 07:48:09 PM
Isn't the problem with the Naks finding batteries these days?
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Gil on June 20, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
Isn't the problem with the Naks finding batteries these days?

Not really. I walk into Rat Shack, give them the model number and they ship them to my house for free. They're ~$9 a piece, but last for about two years.

I hate to be too much of a homer, but every time I see a thread about mics in this general price range, I feel like I should give a recommendation for the Nak 300s and their clones. Truly great mics for the price, typically under $200.

Where can you find the naks? Or buy them

Ebay or the Yard Sale, I'd say.

Are they produced new still?

No. In fact mine might be older than I am ;D
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: Hypnocracy on June 21, 2013, 01:24:46 AM
If you go looking for NAK's remember the Teac's and Tascam Clones...and batteries are no problem if you have the TS Nak Guru Walstib Phantom mod them...I still can't believe I sold my Phantom Mod Teac ME80's...they blew away a set of $1000 Hypers on the same stand on this night;

http://archive.org/details/dngmf2012-08-24.local506_JBModTeac80

Wait...is this a NEW OLD STOCK pair?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Primo-EMU-4535-Electret-Condenser-Microphone-/270859178779?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Microphones&hash=item3f1077131b
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: cybergaloot on June 21, 2013, 10:31:03 AM
Hi,

I was curious as to whether anyone had any experience with these mics. They look beautiful and have great feature including hypercard, card, and omni heads. Anyone have an opinion on them?

Anyone have any they would be interested in selling as well?

Thank you

I run them on occasion. Good starter mics. There are two versions of the C4s, the first version had one switch and the second version had two. I have both but recommend the two switch model. As I understand it, the second version came out to address some issues with the earlier model. Nothing major but I have had an earlier version die on me, the second version are still going strong. The hyper caps are great for cutting through a reverberant room or crowd noise. A little on the bright side though. I might even buy some more one day to use as spot mics onstage since I have moved on to multitrack recording.
Title: Re: Studio project C4 mics
Post by: cybergaloot on June 22, 2013, 05:28:23 PM
^ I've been running the omnis as additional sources on stage lately.  Happy w/the results so far.  I ran C4s for quite a while till I picked up ADK TL's.  The most noticeable difference is in the clarity/presence in the bass.  The C4s are a little softer there than higher priced spreads, (Read: AKG, Neumann, DPA) but are quite good on acoustic sources.

I'm with you. When I got my ADK-tl's I moved the C4s to the back burner but often use them at stage lip in either omni or card. It depends on the show or the type crowd I expect. I was running multitrack last night for a band to maybe use as a CD so I broke out the TL's in split omni at stage lip and put my LSD2 in the middle running Blumlien. Sadly some really drunk woman came in and had to immediately make her funky dance moves across the dance floor, over a monitor and into the LSD2. It fell over and now has a nice dent in one of the grills. I hope she has a really miserable hangover today! Later some other ass hit the LSD2 but didn't manage to do anything other than rock it. So usually I run the C4's so I'm not out as much if they get destroyed.