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Title: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: yousef on July 21, 2013, 05:40:28 PM
Looking around on the net it seems that this is possible, if not as straightforward as cd-ripping.

So far I've installed three new components: foo-ac3, foo_input-dts and foo_input_dvda. But Foobar will not fully open the discs - if I drag and drop them in I just get a list of the video files and couple of the bonus MP3s rather than the full list of hi-res and 5.1 audio.

One webpage I found suggested ripping the tracks with DVD Decrypter first and then using Foobar to convert them to FLAC. I can get all the audio I want as .vob files but cannot seem to get Foobar to recognize or convert them.

What am I missing here?
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on July 21, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
What are you trying to rip?

For stuff like this I use the "download without guilt" method. You own it...no harm in downloading someone else's rip.
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: yousef on July 21, 2013, 06:11:45 PM
The recent Nick Cave reissues.

I think the problem might be that they are not DVD-As as such but DVD-v with LPCM audio track within - hence the extracted files are .vob rather than .aob and therefore not recognized by Foobar.

I guess I could download them if I can find them somewhere. Or just rip the CD audio...
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: voltronic on July 21, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
To rip the audio from your disc, DVD Audio Extractor can help you:
http://www.dvdae.com/ (http://www.dvdae.com/)

If you come across an actual DVD-Video disc (rare nowadays), I have found that DVDAE does not work, despite what it says.

Foobar2000 will also not rip DVD-Audio, but is able to play it with the input_dvda component.

The only tool I have reliably ripped DVD-A discs with is DVDAExplorer.  DVD-A has a different encryption scheme which DVDAExplorer is able to deal with.  (Yes, that means this tool is a bit  >:D)
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVD-Audio-Explorer (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVD-Audio-Explorer)

It worked great for my Beatles Love DVD-A.  If the disc has multiple mixes (many have both stereo and surround mixes), it allows you to choose which one to extract.
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: yousef on July 22, 2013, 07:10:34 AM
So DVDAE will not work with DVD-v discs - which I think mine is?

I'll download the trial version and give it a go in any case.

I can't believe how tricksy this is - I'd just assumed that Foobar could do it in a couple of clicks...
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: yates7592 on July 22, 2013, 08:38:33 AM
You can extract .wav files from DVD-A discs in Wavelab.
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: voltronic on July 22, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
So DVDAE will not work with DVD-v discs - which I think mine is?

I'll download the trial version and give it a go in any case.

I can't believe how tricksy this is - I'd just assumed that Foobar could do it in a couple of clicks...

DVD Audio Explorer is for DVD-Audio ONLY, but nothing else I've ever tried is able to rip DVD-A.  I don't have Wavelab so never tried that one.

BTW, the reason this is so difficult is because every effort is made by the manufacturers to prevent you ripping these discs.
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: yousef on July 22, 2013, 02:40:59 PM
I'm going to try various options this evening and see what happens.

I can really see this ending in me just ripping the 44.1/16 discs...
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: Osketa on August 20, 2013, 03:42:11 AM
My favorite for that purpose is AppGeeker DVD Ripper, supports all known video and audio formats.

http://www.appgeeker.com (http://www.appgeeker.com)

Never had a problem with it.
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: dnsacks on August 20, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
another thought -- rip the dvd-v to mkv using makemkv, you can specify in makemkv which audio track(s) you want the mkv to contain.  Then, open the mkv in foobar2000 and see how it plays -- the mkv should retain the dvd chapters and foobar2000 can be used to extract/convert the audio to wav/flac/etc.  If the chapters don't split how you want, you could extract to one big file in foobar and open the wav/flac in cdwav, etc. to track/crop accordingly. 
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: yousef on August 20, 2013, 11:27:36 AM
Thanks for the further replies - I'll look into the suggestions and see if they improve my current workflow: extract using DVD Decryptor to LPCM .vob files and then use Pazera free audio extractor to covert to FLAC. And then manually rename and tag all the files with Foobar  ::)

I've got the Nick Cave reissues, the Doors boxset, Neil Young's Archives and maybe four other discs that require this treatment so not a huge undertaking, thankfully.
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: dnsacks on August 20, 2013, 11:57:08 AM
Looks like the doors box set is dvd-a, which should be readable/rippable using foobar2000.

Thanks for the further replies - I'll look into the suggestions and see if they improve my current workflow: extract using DVD Decryptor to LPCM .vob files and then use Pazera free audio extractor to covert to FLAC. And then manually rename and tag all the files with Foobar  ::)

I've got the Nick Cave reissues, the Doors boxset, Neil Young's Archives and maybe four other discs that require this treatment so not a huge undertaking, thankfully.
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: voltronic on August 20, 2013, 12:21:02 PM
Looks like the doors box set is dvd-a, which should be readable/rippable using foobar2000.

Thanks for the further replies - I'll look into the suggestions and see if they improve my current workflow: extract using DVD Decryptor to LPCM .vob files and then use Pazera free audio extractor to covert to FLAC. And then manually rename and tag all the files with Foobar  ::)

I've got the Nick Cave reissues, the Doors boxset, Neil Young's Archives and maybe four other discs that require this treatment so not a huge undertaking, thankfully.

Be aware that most if not all commercially-made DVD-A discs are "watermarked".  This means that the ripped files may play back fine on your computer, but if you then author a new DVD-A disc with those files the audio will cut out after 30 seconds.  Previously I had thought there was no way around this, but I just found the guide below.  Please note that I have never tried this method and cannot vouch for it:
http://torrentfreaknews.blogspot.com/2012/11/how-to-rip-dvd-with-foobar2000-windows.html (http://torrentfreaknews.blogspot.com/2012/11/how-to-rip-dvd-with-foobar2000-windows.html)
Title: Re: Ripping DVD-A with Foobar
Post by: yousef on August 20, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Really pleased to hear that the Doors box will be rippable with Foobar. Not listened to it for a while but I think there are different mixes on the CDs and DVDs in that box.

The watermarking shouldn't be an issue for me but it's good to know about - thanks for the workaround.