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Title: almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Chris K on March 30, 2004, 12:54:42 PM: so, i'm setting up for ratdog friday night, when a buddy who was patching out asks what mics i am running. i told him i was running akg 460's with the ck63 hyper caps. he looks at the one mic and says it says cardiod on the cap.

i look and he's right, i almost flew the 460's with one hyper and one cardiod cap. i guess when i prepped my gear the night before i put the cardiod cap on by mistake. :P

i brought the other caps, and sure enough in the case, one card and one hyper. i quckly changed the card to a hyper cap, and all is well. ;D

anyone ever make this blunder and record? anyone ever do this on purpose? what would have been the outcome? ???
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: twoodruff on March 30, 2004, 12:58:05 PM: Quote from: Chris K on March 30, 2004, 12:54:42 PM

anyone ever make this blunder and record?

see Mike Falcon and %^& Morrison's tapes of wsp oak '02, one hyper one card, neumann km100 series
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: BCostigan on March 30, 2004, 01:05:18 PM: I almost did that the other night with my TLs...only one was card and one was fig 8. Fortunatly someone asked what polar patterns the mic had which reminded me to set them both to hyper. :P

I'd imagine this happens a lot with the LD mics with multiple patterns.
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: dmonterisi on March 30, 2004, 01:30:10 PM: on a related note, at a show @ 930, i almost recorded with one u89 facing backward and the other forward.
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Tim on March 30, 2004, 01:34:32 PM: :lol:

nice...

I run fig 8's at everyshow just to prevent this sort of mishap ;)
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: dmonterisi on March 30, 2004, 01:38:03 PM: i wonder what fig-8's DIN sound like?

i was looking at the mics and thinking "did that little neumann symbol fall off one of the mics?"
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Tim on March 30, 2004, 01:41:40 PM: that's alright, apparently there was much confusion at a fall Phish show over which way the neumann logo was supposed to point and why there were two settings for "cardioid".
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: dmonterisi on March 30, 2004, 01:44:23 PM: Quote from: Tim on March 30, 2004, 01:41:40 PM
why there were two settings for "cardioid".

not an unreasonable question, to be fair.
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Tim on March 30, 2004, 01:46:45 PM: no, not at all... but picturing Jason, Scott and John all standing around and scratching their heads over it makes me laugh ;D
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: plucks on March 30, 2004, 01:56:56 PM: ^yeah, and i was there at Nassau too for the first night, so they shoulda known which they were facing!! :P
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: marc0789 on March 30, 2004, 02:28:24 PM: Ah, the "Ben Morrison Oak Mountain Hyper-Card mix". ;D
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Chris K on March 30, 2004, 03:05:33 PM: all things being equal...which would give the stronger signal? the card or hyper setting?

wondering if running a hyper and card would be advantageous in a venue where the section is on a severe SIDE of a venue...like far left and way back.
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Tim on March 30, 2004, 05:16:27 PM: I'd guess card due to the natural rolloff tendencies of hyper patterns.
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Craig T on March 30, 2004, 05:31:36 PM: I almost did it once, but a friend did a split omni/card recording with the ADK TL's by accident. I hate admit it, but I once did a sweet fob Derek Trucks recording with Neumann tlm170s x/y cards with the mics facing back into the crowd - whooops. I always do a quick double check on the pattern switch to avoid such mishaps.
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Chris K on March 30, 2004, 05:34:37 PM: thats what i was thinking also.

hmm.. so if i am set up far left of stage, would it make sense to run a hyper toward the closer left stack, and a card toward the furthur right stack.

wait a minute, this is bullshit...i'm never gonna do this!
Title: Re:almost ran hyper & card caps
Post by: Simp-Dawg on March 30, 2004, 06:27:07 PM: i ran one hyper and one omni, xy, with the cables switched l-r at nedfest last year. realized my mistake after the first band. sounds interesting.