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Title: DPA 4061'S: HOW MUCH JUICE?
Post by: BlindGuyEars on October 05, 2013, 11:54:42 AM

Hi folks.

Can my new Sony PCM-M10 power a pair of DPA 4061's from its mic jack?  I have an external pre as well. I'm just wondering if I can go even more low profile at times.

Title: Re: DPA 4061'S: HOW MUCH JUICE?
Post by: yates7592 on October 06, 2013, 03:15:17 AM

I dunno, but of course the max SPL capability drops as input voltage falls (from DPA website):

Max = 144dB
48V = 142dB
24V = 136dB
12V = 134dB
9V = "N/A" (whatever that means - "not available" ??)

Of course many people here use a simple BB with a 9V battery (7V-8V) and no problems at all. Is P-I-P on the M10 about 3V?
I heard of people powering B3's directly from an M10, not sure about 4061's. Probably fine for quiet stuff??

Title: Re: DPA 4061'S: HOW MUCH JUICE?
Post by: Church-Audio on October 06, 2013, 06:08:08 AM

Quote from: yates7592 on October 06, 2013, 03:15:17 AM

I dunno, but of course the max SPL capability drops as input voltage falls (from DPA website):

Max = 144dB
48V = 142dB
24V = 136dB
12V = 134dB
9V = "N/A" (whatever that means - "not available" ??)

Of course many people here use a simple BB with a 9V battery (7V-8V) and no problems at all. Is P-I-P on the M10 about 3V?
I heard of people powering B3's directly from an M10, not sure about 4061's. Probably fine for quiet stuff??

Plug in power
you need a solid 5 volts to run these mics.

Title: Re: DPA 4061'S: HOW MUCH JUICE?
Post by: taper666 on October 06, 2013, 07:25:17 AM

You can power the DPA mics with PIP of the M10 - but as mentioned above you might get problems with higher SPL. For recording very loud shows a battery box with 9 V is the save way to power them properly

Title: Re: DPA 4061'S: HOW MUCH JUICE?
Post by: Len Moskowitz (Core Sound) on October 06, 2013, 09:06:53 AM

Quote from: yates7592 on October 06, 2013, 03:15:17 AM

I dunno, but of course the max SPL capability drops as input voltage falls (from DPA website):

Max = 144dB
48V = 142dB
24V = 136dB
12V = 134dB
9V = "N/A" (whatever that means - "not available" ??)

This is probably when the 4061 is used with DPA's DAD6001 48V adapter. If you tried to use 48V (or even 12 Volts) directly with a 4061 you'd destroy it.

Title: Re: DPA 4061'S: HOW MUCH JUICE?
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on October 06, 2013, 11:57:58 AM

I ran my 4061's using the plug-in power of the microtrack. I made a post here about it at the time and it should still be in the archive... here it is. It was an effort to avoid using a battery box with the microtrack.  My microtrack put out 4.5 volts.  The performance of the mics seemed ok, even on very loud and extremely bass intensive material.  But that was likely very much borderline.

I recall that the m10 PIP is 3 volts, so my experience is here nor there.  I doubt that will be enough, and you will need a bbox.

Title: Re: DPA 4061'S: HOW MUCH JUICE?
Post by: BlindGuyEars on October 06, 2013, 01:37:56 PM

thanks guys!