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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: F.O.Bean on January 06, 2014, 03:11:52 AM
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>:D >:D 8) 8)
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if nobody beats me to it I can probably do this tonight. I had a couple inv-6's on my xmas list and Santa hooked me up. I can say the inv-6 looks perfect for an ORTF or DIN/DINa since it has the shorter spacing. I was trying it out last night.
for the longer bars such as A-B and maybe even the NOS the inv-7 will give a little more stability since they are intended to support longer mic bodies like the AKG 460s. I haven't tried the longer mics/bars in an inv-6 yet but suspect it'll be a little too wobbly.
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if nobody beats me to it I can probably do this tonight. I had a couple inv-6's on my xmas list and Santa hooked me up. I can say the inv-6 looks perfect for an ORTF or DIN/DINa since it has the shorter spacing. I was trying it out last night.
for the longer bars such as A-B and maybe even the NOS the inv-7 will give a little more stability since they are intended to support longer mic bodies like the AKG 460s. I haven't tried the longer mics/bars in an inv-6 yet but suspect it'll be a little too wobbly.
For any bars longer than that, you'd do better to get the heavy grade INV (like the HG-2 or HG-3, whatever number they are on), I think that was about as far as I pushed mine when I had a set of beyer remote caps. The weight of the bar and caps cause the smaller lyres to sag which reduces their effectiveness.
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^Or you could use two mounts on one Vark Bar if using the large/long active bar. Maybe overkill, but very sturdy.
....but check out the HG-MKII.... it's pretty great too!
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?sku=880280&Q=&O=&is=REG&A=details (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?sku=880280&Q=&O=&is=REG&A=details)
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nice!!
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check out the HG-MKII
Yep, that's it. Thanks.
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I just want pics of a schoeps DIN/DINa bar with the INV 6 ;) I will have two of them on a. Vark bar like my current a20s setup!
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if nobody beats me to it I can probably do this tonight. I had a couple inv-6's on my xmas list and Santa hooked me up. I can say the inv-6 looks perfect for an ORTF or DIN/DINa since it has the shorter spacing. I was trying it out last night.
for the longer bars such as A-B and maybe even the NOS the inv-7 will give a little more stability since they are intended to support longer mic bodies like the AKG 460s. I haven't tried the longer mics/bars in an inv-6 yet but suspect it'll be a little too wobbly.
NB: The INV-7 has 3 options.
1) The standard wide spacing.
2) Move the rear Lyre forward and you get the narrow spacing of the INV-6 instead.
3) Move the front Lyre instead and you get a medium spacing.
The INV-7 is *very* flexible.
(http://vintageking.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/375x280/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/y/rycote_invision_inv_7_suspension_mount.jpg)
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NB: The INV-7 has 3 options.
1) The standard wide spacing.
2) Move the rear Lyre forward and you get the narrow spacing of the INV-6 instead.
3) Move the front Lyre instead and you get a medium spacing.
The INV-7 is *very* flexible.
I know that you can purchase replacement/upgrade lyres, but is the INV-7 built so that there is a middle screw holder, thus an enterprising individual could screw on a third middle lyre for additional support of heavier loads?
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NB: The INV-7 has 3 options.
1) The standard wide spacing.
2) Move the rear Lyre forward and you get the narrow spacing of the INV-6 instead.
3) Move the front Lyre instead and you get a medium spacing.
The INV-7 is *very* flexible.
I know that you can purchase replacement/upgrade lyres, but is the INV-7 built so that there is a middle screw holder, thus an enterprising individual could screw on a third middle lyre for additional support of heavier loads?
Yes - the INV-7 has 3 screw holes.
So yo can move the Lyres around to make different spaces (as I said) - or, as you suggested - adding an extra one.
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So you can move the Lyres around to make different spaces (as I said) - or, as you suggested - adding an extra one.
excellent. Thanks.
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A picture of an active bar in my Rycote mount is in this thread: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=165122.0
As I noted elsewhere, if you are only concerned with mounting a bar in it, rather than individual mics, this Rycote is a better choice at same price: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880280-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_8_Microphone_Suspension.html
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A picture of an active bar in my Rycote mount is in this thread: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=165122.0
As I noted elsewhere, if you are only concerned with mounting a bar in it, rather than individual mics, this Rycote is a better choice at same price: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880280-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_8_Microphone_Suspension.html
I use an HG-MkIII with active bars and it works well. A very substantial mount. Just keep in mind that it is a bit wide (2.75 inches) and may be a problem with shorter bars like a DINa where the back of the collettes and the cables protrude at an inward angle.
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^I'm not familiar with the HG-MKIII, but a DINa bar fits in the HG-MKII just fine.
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Snugger with my AKG actives than my Schoeps actives due to the construction of the collette and cables.
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So, does ANYONE have pics of a DINa/DIN/ORTF bar in an INVision 6? thats mainly what Im looking for! I will be using [2] of the Invisions on a vark bar like my current Vark/A20S setup ;)
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=163248.0
So, do yinz think Id be better off with [2] INV6's, or [2]HG-MKII/MKIII ???
Thanks fellas,
Bean
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Not a great picture but I hope it conveys the size
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng9mpc3xarmt9ke/inv6_ortf.JPG
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Not a great picture but I hope it conveys the size
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng9mpc3xarmt9ke/inv6_ortf.JPG
And thats an INV6 ??? Thats EXACTLY what I was looking for! Cant thank you enuf Chris 8) Looks like I'll be buying [2] of those INV6's :)
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Not a great picture but I hope it conveys the size
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng9mpc3xarmt9ke/inv6_ortf.JPG
What is around the ORTF bar? Looks like tubing or something? Can u PLEASE snap a couple more pics? Like one looking down on the mount? And one from behind?
Thanks,
Bean
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^looks like an fbob all-in-one bar.
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^looks like an fbob all-in-one bar.
Ahh, thanks Guy! I think youre right :) Sweet, Im psyched now! Cant afford the INV6 just yet, but I will have them soon enough!
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^looks like an fbob all-in-one bar.
Yep
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I think this is what you have in mind (or very close). Vark bar with a couple of Schoeps active setups using DINa bar on the top and ORTF bar on the bottom. The INV6 is on the top and the INV3 on the bottom. I would go with the 6 unless you want something very small / unobtrusive. There's not much different between them with this setup, the INV3 is even smaller but doesn't provide quite as much stability as the INV6. Plus you need a Phillips screwdriver to adjust / tighten the INV3 while the INV6 can be done by hand. I almost always use the INV6 over the INV3 for what it's worth. And of course you can arrange them however you want on the Vark bar.
Front:
https://www.hightail.com/download/elNLU2VsUnJsamQ3czhUQw
Right:
https://www.hightail.com/download/elNLU2VsUnJubHhnRXNUQw
Right / Front:
https://www.hightail.com/download/elNLU2VsUnJuSlI4SjhUQw
Left:
https://www.hightail.com/download/elNLU2VsUnJTRTUzZU5Vag
Top:
https://www.hightail.com/download/elNLU2VsUnJUWUNVQU1UQw
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Thank you SOOOO much Brad! I will be mounting both pairs on the top of the vark bar tho. From your pics, it looks like that will work, so a huge thanks man!!!
Happy Taping,
Bean