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Title: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: Cobiwan on February 13, 2014, 04:28:10 AM
I have a pair of 63s and am soon getting a pair of 61s; was wondering whats best to run FOB. I'm running 480 bodies into a Mini Me. Just wondering what works better indoors at a theatre. I lean towards hyper/63s. Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: Phil Zone on February 13, 2014, 04:49:53 AM
If you are really close. Cards for sure. 50ft plus in a crowded ROM go hypers. In a good sounding room it really won't matter to much though.
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: achalsey on February 13, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
My vote would be for which ever ones you prefer.  I assume most people will say cards (except for maybe Bean  ;)) but from my one anecdotal experience 63s way FOB sound great.

Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: page on February 13, 2014, 11:53:34 AM
my rule of thumb; cards outdoors, hypers indoors.
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: tgakidis on February 13, 2014, 12:14:15 PM
my rule of thumb; cards outdoors, hypers indoors.

unless super FOB or Onstage
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: carlbeck on February 13, 2014, 01:06:40 PM
In a good theater at about the 16th row or so I run cards, after that it goes either way. The mini me makes either cap sound good so you can't really lose.
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: adrianf74 on February 13, 2014, 02:28:34 PM
One size doesn't fit all.

If you're running on-stage or close (first ten rows), cards.   Beyond that, hypers.  I find my cards are getting less and less of a workout these days.  :)

A lot of this, as has been mentioned, is trial and error and what you think/like.  There is no magic 8-ball for this one.
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: willndmb on February 13, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
I say whatever you like overall
I have run 63 on a stack and 61 in the back
I run both sets all the time so its not like I need to pick but the sound isn't that different on them IMO
In fact 99% of the time I like the 63 better no matter where I am at
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: adrianf74 on February 13, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
In fact 99% of the time I like the 63 better no matter where I am at

This.  I've also found that to be more often the case than not.  There is a certain sound with the 63's that is sweet.
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: page on February 13, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
my rule of thumb; cards outdoors, hypers indoors.

unless super FOB or Onstage

Yeah, my brevity didn't help. Stage-lip or onstage are my limits. Even half way to the front at proper triangulation, if I'm still taping stacks, I would reach for hypers indoors. It's only when I'm interested in the stage-lip or on stage that I'd change that.

I actually like the tighter pattern not for people rejection, but reflection rejection. Thats why I went for a generalized indoor/outdoor, cut out some of the ceiling/wall bounce reverb.
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: achalsey on February 15, 2014, 02:25:37 PM
FOB CK 63s  :drummer:

https://archive.org/details/UM2014-02-14.CK63.V2.flac16
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 07, 2014, 04:13:24 AM
My vote would be for which ever ones you prefer.  I assume most people will say cards (except for maybe Bean  ;)) but from my one anecdotal experience 63s way FOB sound great.



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Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: Hypnocracy on March 07, 2014, 09:19:27 PM
The room makes all the difference...here is a sample of Cards...behind the SNB way behind the top of a Equilateral Triangle of the Stacks...hypers would have done nothing for this pull...

Trey Anastasio Band at Fillmore Charlotte NC - Sand (https://soundcloud.com/hypnocracy/sand)
Title: Re: FOB: ck 63 or ck 61?
Post by: adrianf74 on March 08, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
This one has as many answers as do the combinations of colours available when one sees a rainbow.  :)

There is no one-size fits all answer.  As mentioned, it depends on the room and where you have to set up.  In some cases, it's preference; in other cases, your set-up location will be the determining factor.