Taperssection.com

Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: carlito1980 on February 21, 2014, 02:48:18 PM

Title: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: carlito1980 on February 21, 2014, 02:48:18 PM
Hi all,

I need your help.

I am going to record some shows for amateur band on video and  wonder where to place some microphones to capture the best live feeling.

I will be able to connect a protable recorder with the mixer unit and I am also able to place  2 recorders with any of a CA11/14 Card and Omni mics.

The venue is square., about 150 people.

Where should i put which microphones of these four to mix these records with the mixer record?
Maybe in front of the stage directed to the crowd? Or even hanging from the roof?

I hope you guys have good idead for a good record!

Thanks in advice!

Title: Re: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: page on February 21, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
A) How loud will they be (or by proxy, what instruments are they using)?
B) Can you arrange anything on stage (e.g. certain instruments move slightly in one direction or another, adding an additional amp/speaker, etc)?
C) What's the loudest SPL that the Church mics can sustain before overloading? (this is a question to Chris if you don't have that info handy)
Title: Re: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: carlito1980 on February 22, 2014, 02:35:38 AM
Hi, thanks for your reply.
They are 3 musicans- Bassguitar, E-guitar and drums.
I won't be able to move ans speakers and i dont know how they will be set up.
As far as I rember does the church stuff handle about 114db.
Title: Re: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: carlito1980 on February 24, 2014, 06:18:51 AM
Well no one here to help?  :(
Title: Re: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: ellaguru on February 24, 2014, 07:26:11 AM
Well no one here to help?  :(

the fact that no one has supplied the definitive answer should tell you something...

...that there is no definitive answer!

walk around venue during soundcheck.  where ever it sounds best from is where id record from
Title: Re: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: adrianf74 on February 24, 2014, 06:45:47 PM
What ellaguru said.  There isn't a one-size fits all for recording shows.  Even if I'm familiar with a space, and I know where the "sweet spot" is, I don't assume that's going to be the best sounding spot in a room until I hear something mixed because things constantly change.

Listen during soundcheck, as was suggested, and set up based on that.   All the best.
Title: Re: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: deadheadcorey on February 24, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
I would put your Omni's on stage split about 10-12 feet (depending on long the stage is) and then put your Card's FOB/DFC
Title: Re: Official Record for amateur bands - Where to place my CA11/14 mics?
Post by: hoppedup on February 25, 2014, 11:25:18 AM
I would put your Omni's on stage split about 10-12 feet (depending on long the stage is) and then put your Card's FOB/DFC

x2

Split omnis on stage and cards FOB in some sort of stereo configuration DIN, ORTF, etc. Or PAS (Point At Stacks, which is just what it sounds like) for the cards, which is what I am doing more often than not these days.