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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Nick Graham on April 05, 2004, 02:28:38 PM
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Most of the tapes I've heard with these have been on-stage Kimock recordings, which I realize aren't exactly a good representation of what they'll sound like from the section.
Charlie Miller recently sent me a tape of Phil & Friends 6.30.01 from the section (nt2>v2>sbm1), and I really dig the sound. Anybody else have an opinion on these one way or another? Any particular tapes (good or bad) I should check out?
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im NOT a fan of anything r0de makes. I always feel like their build quality is cheap and the sound is brittle and dry, but my ears aren't your ears and your money isn't mine. Listen to a LOT of tapes and make your decisions from there.
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Charlie Miller recently sent me a tape of Phil & Friends 6.30.01 from the section (nt2>v2>sbm1), and I really dig the sound. Anybody else have an opinion on these one way or another? Any particular tapes (good or bad) I should check out?
Was this on stage or an audience recording? If it's audience, i'm giving my nt2 a spin out to the next show i tape.
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brittle and spitty.
the ntk is popular among norwegian rappers.
but then again what do the norwegian hip hopper's know about mics anyway?
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all you rode bashers need to run some critical tests...SAME gear, SAME show, SAME spot, head to head
Thanks for volunteering! Let us know when you're done with the comps - I'm sure there are plenty of people here interested in hearing it. :)
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those mics are well respected by many outside this little hobby..people with far more critical ears than most here..not just norweigan rappers ;)
LOL + T for that.
to be honest Rode used to be a popular brand,but with recent flood of
chinese based mics,which in some cases sound better at lower cost.
still they all have one thing in common the strident high,mainly because of the capsule design.Rode claim to have shifted their production to australia ,so maybe things are getting better.
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ive blind tested a whole bunch of the r0de mics in the studio against a number of mics, ive also looked at the build quality (mind you ive seen at least 3 r0de mics fall apart from very minor wear and tear), and ive looked at the price- for what its worth they might as well be made by behringer.
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harsh, dry, two dimensional, and yes, I think "brittle" is a good description. Too many hq low priced alternatives out there, particularly several ADK mics, to fool with these, imnsho. 8)
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sometimes bandwagon bashing is just that, but often times it reveals a truth about equipment. there's a reason you see most top end audio guys basing behringer gear. there's a reason you see oktavas ripped to shreads a lot. conversely there's a reason you see companies like neumann and schoeps praised a lot.
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what are you talking about? my tickets have been going up and i havent even touched yours. listen, i respect your opinion, you are listening with your ears, not mine (obviously).
anyways, my point is this- sometimes there is a bandwagon for a reason. also, at the pricepoint of the nt2 (450ish used for a pair, 6-800ish for a new pair) i think there are a variety of other mics that are available that:
a. give you more bang for your buck in terms of fq response and overall build quality
b. will retain their value beyond the first few days
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Looks like I started a monster here...certainly not my intention. +T to everyone who's responded. I'm really wanting some LD mics, and don't have the cash for ADKs (unless I sell the MBHOs, which ain't gonna happen), so the few NT2 tapes I've heard I really liked.
Just looking for a few more opinions, since all but 2 of the Rode tapes on archive.org are stage tapes, and I'll rarely if ever be stage taping.
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if you are looking for a LD card condensor mic you might take a look over at studioprojects.com
i just reviewed their sd c4 mics and gave them a pretty positive review. their LD mics have been getting rave reviews
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i ran the nt5s for couple nights of the the fall primus tour and there were several other mics there everytime..those sources never popped up....but then i guess the warfield "just sounds good" right?
I have those two recording (nt5 > usb pre 1.5 ?) and they are my favorites from the fall tour... and I have most of the tour.
--mizary
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I'm using my nt5's at kdtu tonight at the chicago hob. It will be my goal to get another source near me for a direct comparison. I'll let you know how that goes, and post a link to my show at the archive when I get it transfered. Do I smell a team Rode?
Matt
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Well, the KDTU show went well, but the mix was terribly boomy and I assume my recording will be as well. I don't think this is going to be the worlds best test. I did make contact with one other taper there however. He and I are in contact and I will get a copy of his source. He was running skg c-1000s and I'm not sure what pre. The c1000 recordings that I have heard are all lacking in the low end, so I think that may have helped him. There was also a guy running scheops, but he came right at the last minute, and blew out of there right away. I wasn't able to talk to him at all, but I'll keep my eyes open for that one as well. We were all FOB DFC, so it should be a good comparison in that regard.
I'll let you know when I get things transfered.
Matt
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i love how whenever chetakinsdiet replies to one of my posts one of these little "tickets" goes away..LOL..i love you too buddy ;)
funny little world this one...the mystery of giving and taking tickets is pure comedy...little backstabbers sneaking around behind the scenes..maybe its that "report to moderator" button that does it
if you love your schoeps so much match em up with the rodes...i would certainly HOPE they are better given the price (fuck i own two sets myself right now), but are they 10x better? i think not
all hail the bandwagon
boogie
yep dont get the guy either... he likes to bash products like behringer and other afforable gear. I really wish I could say this nicely but STFU!
listen chet not everyone here can afford the best stuff. and when someone goes out and happens to buy a rode, behringer, oktava (affordable) mic and then they see your negative posts they might not feel so good about thier purchase.
all im saying here before this get outtahand is that I would really appreciate if you have something negative to say about a product or baseball team for that matter let someone else have some positive input first. Please?
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I'm not familiar with the "positive before negative" rule when someone posts a request for opinions. Please explain.
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not saying that there should be a rule just making a request to a particular person...
EDIT: Sorry if I was implying that there should be a rule and that there my comments wernt more direct to Chet Atkins Diet.
I hope that you can see my point.
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I guess I don't understand your history with Chet. Don't be so sensitive, there are a hundred "your favorite mic sucks" threads on this board, and they aren't aimed at just the inexpensive gear - the hi-end stuff gets its fair share of bashing. If a mic sounds good, the recordings will do the convincing.
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Well, the KDTU show went well, but the mix was terribly boomy and I assume my recording will be as well. I don't think this is going to be the worlds best test. I did make contact with one other taper there however. He and I are in contact and I will get a copy of his source. He was running skg c-1000s and I'm not sure what pre. The c1000 recordings that I have heard are all lacking in the low end, so I think that may have helped him. There was also a guy running scheops, but he came right at the last minute, and blew out of there right away. I wasn't able to talk to him at all, but I'll keep my eyes open for that one as well. We were all FOB DFC, so it should be a good comparison in that regard.
I'll let you know when I get things transfered.
Matt
FWIW there is no way I'm releasing this show without the processing. The bass hum that was present to my ears that night was also recorded (acurately I guess) by my mics. A low cut switch would be a nice addition to these mics for this type of situation. This was my first time using these mics without my my mixer (which has eq) and my new ua-5 has no compensation. A little dance in the digital world has done wonders, and when all is said and done I think I will be satisfied with the results. For anybody who is interested in hearing the show with processing, it will be posted to the archive as kdtu2004-04-20flac16 . It should be up by the end of the weekend. As for the other source, I will be getting that and will post my thoughts on the comparison if anybody is interested.
Matt
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yep dont get the guy either... he likes to bash products like behringer and other afforable gear. I really wish I could say this nicely but STFU!
listen chet not everyone here can afford the best stuff. and when someone goes out and happens to buy a rode, behringer, oktava (affordable) mic and then they see your negative posts they might not feel so good about thier purchase.
all im saying here before this get outtahand is that I would really appreciate if you have something negative to say about a product or baseball team for that matter let someone else have some positive input first. Please?
WTF??? He's not allowed to give his opinion? That's a load of crap. If he thinks the mics suck, he can say it. If you disagree, post why, or post examples. I didn't see any reason to jump on his case... And the whole posting positive reviews before negative reviews is ridiculous...
And the only experience I've had with Rode mics is the NT4 (the mic set up in XY). And I have to say, it's not too great. A guy I know uses it for a crowd mic when he multitracks the band he works for. It works fine for that, but for PA recording it's pretty bad.
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not saying that there should be a rule just making a request to a particular person...
EDIT: Sorry if I was implying that there should be a rule and that there my comments wernt more direct to Chet Atkins Diet.
I hope that you can see my point.
no i don't see your point. an opinion was requested and an opinion was given. if you wanna say i bash every inexpensive mic then you arent reading some of my posts. do you recall the studio projects c4's i just reviewed that cost 300ish for a matched pair with omnis? how about the fact that the akg 391's are in a lower end price range and are a good mic. you are gonna spend as much on either of those mics that you would on the r0des and you get a much better piece of equipment that not only performs better but retains its value better.
in any event, my opinion about the mics has been heard, and no it isnt me that's -t ing you.
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i love how whenever chetakinsdiet replies to one of my posts one of these little "tickets" goes away..LOL..i love you too buddy ;)
funny little world this one...the mystery of giving and taking tickets is pure comedy...little backstabbers sneaking around behind the scenes..maybe its that "report to moderator" button that does it
if you love your schoeps so much match em up with the rodes...i would certainly HOPE they are better given the price (fuck i own two sets myself right now), but are they 10x better? i think not
all hail the bandwagon
boogie
yep dont get the guy either... he likes to bash products like behringer and other afforable gear. I really wish I could say this nicely but STFU!
listen chet not everyone here can afford the best stuff. and when someone goes out and happens to buy a rode, behringer, oktava (affordable) mic and then they see your negative posts they might not feel so good about thier purchase.
all im saying here before this get outtahand is that I would really appreciate if you have something negative to say about a product or baseball team for that matter let someone else have some positive input first. Please?
Don't act like a douche nozzle, man. An opinion was asked and an opinion was given, if this is really about baseball, keep it to your damn baseball thread. Otherwise, give your opinion without degrading the opinions of others.
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Been taping with Rode NT4->SonyD8 DAT for at least 2.5 years now. I describe them as a set of ears, to me they reproduce the show from the Aud just as its mixed in the venue. Until i have 6 grand to drop on a all digi setup i have no complaints. Small bars or big festivels they work great IMO. Just got my JB3 and will be taping Billy Mckay Band Fri. at a tiny pub across the street from the Brewery i brew for. Give me a shout and i will let you judge for yourself. Also have several Shady Deal shows in circ. on archive.org if you want to listen. The NYE show was a little rough due to a long narrow room with low ceiling and a boatload of people, i had to tape @ the back of the room. But Riverport, Telluride & The Sheridan, The Ryman, The Pageant, The Fox St. Louis and Fillmore in Denver, and lots of little bars i have never had anyone say the quality was not good.
peas
- but thats kool if you like Karrots too
jephro
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I think I still have an SCI NYE show from a few years back: NT2 > DAT, I believe. Sounds pretty nice. I'll dig it out if anyone is interested in hearing it, archiving it, BT'ing it or b&p'ing it.
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Wow, this thread isn't old at all. ;D
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if you are looking for a LD card condensor mic you might take a look over at studioprojects.com
i just reviewed their sd c4 mics and gave them a pretty positive review. their LD mics have been getting rave reviews
I agree with this. I have a Rode NT-4 stereo mic. It is ok at best. On the other hand, I love my Studio Priojects mics. They are the best mic for the price.
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I got a sampler of the nt4 from a TAB show that I taped using another rig (albeit U89s), and wasn't all that impressed. I had been planning on buying one, but after hearing a few samples, opted out.