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Title: Mic storage?
Post by: RAQnasty on September 20, 2014, 06:13:21 PM
Ive tried to search on this subject, but here goes...

Whats the best way to store mics?... Currently have my caps on the bodies, rolled in bubble wrap inside of a padded case - got one of those foam-filled, custmizable gun cases for like 30 bucks (which i love)

Guess my main question is whether i should store intact or not.  Seems like less chance (for me) to damage by keeping intact, but is there any disadvantage to this?

Any suggestions appreciated
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: Gene Poole on September 21, 2014, 08:32:27 PM
I keep mine rolled up in a sandwich bag with a desiccant pack.  I change out the pack every few months.
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Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: bryonsos on September 21, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
I couldn't find the thread that talks about cigar caddies, but here's an example:

http://www.air-n-water.com/product/hum-cc2.htm?utm_source=google&utm_medium=comparisonshopping&utm_term=Quality%20Importers&utm_campaign=Humidors&utm_content=HUM-CC2&gclid=Cj0KEQjw7vmgBRDdnLPZp7aBlroBEiQA7_NmV6TIyeLiFbvlyT_RDXkUB0jsCnLQ2kDSNXba7sTrjrcaAlZZ8P8HAQ
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: audBall on September 21, 2014, 10:09:28 PM
I second the Cigar Caddy. It's basically a Pelican Case / Otterbox with foam-lined storage. The larger version (3400) is actually cheaper than the smaller two mic/cigar version (3140) on amazon right now.

2-mic 3140: http://www.amazon.com/Cigar-Caddy-Waterproof-Travel-Humidor/dp/B0007VU67O
5-mic 3400: http://www.amazon.com/Cigar-Caddy-HUM-CC5-Caddy%C2%AE-3400/dp/B0007VWETM

My 3140 fits two pairs of MG capsules and a pair of AKG CK caps with Naiant couplings, all baffled.

edit - Don't use the humidifier disc, obviously. Even the 10 and 40-cigar/mic versions are going for pretty good prices compared Pelican prices and these even include foam.
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: mccordo on September 22, 2014, 09:40:19 AM
I use a 3140 Cigar Caddy like audBall posted for my Busman BSC-1s. It fits them like a glove so they doesn't rattle around and the case easily fits in my gear bag. Plus it's cheaper and smaller than the old Pelican case I use to use and I didn't have to buy pick-n-pluck foam that needed DIY customization since it's already foam lined and contoured for cigars (and mics).
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: RAQnasty on September 22, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
seems like everyone is storing intact (which is how I have done).

Does anyone store with caps removed?  Is there any advantage to doing so?
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: bombdiggity on September 22, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
^ I'd not heard anything to discourage one way or the other, though someone did mention if you leave the caps on for extended periods to loosen and reattach every once in a while to make sure the contacts stay clear/clean.   
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: Phil Zone on September 22, 2014, 03:47:31 PM
Cigar caddy!
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: DSatz on September 22, 2014, 11:14:46 PM
RAQnasty, to answer your question, I store my Schoeps Colette amplifiers and capsules separately, since I always choose capsules based on the recording conditions; I don't have one fixed configuration that I always use. I have a plastic sorting bin that I keep the capsules in, in their vials; I bought it at a hardware or stationery store. The omni capsules are on the left, the cardioids are in the middle, and the figure-8s are on the right, with the in-between patterns in between. The smaller compartments toward the front hold speech capsules.

My Colette-series amplifiers and older, not-so-modular (CMT-series) Schoeps mikes all live in standard wooden Schoeps cases. I also keep my Neumann KM 84s and KM 150s assembled in their cases, since I don't use them with any other capsules even though they, too, are of modular design.

I use cigar caddies to bring pairs of microphones to recordings, but I never leave them in there for very long afterward. When I first discovered cigar caddies--on this forum--I bought several and sent one to Dr. Helmut Wittek at Schoeps as a gift. His reply included the remark (translated): "What is good for cigars--keeping moisture in--is very bad for microphones."

Even if I only had one pair of capsules, I would still remove and reattach them occasionally to wipe the contacts clean.

--best regards
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: kingkita on September 22, 2014, 11:21:25 PM
Very Pretty
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: obaaron on September 23, 2014, 12:30:36 AM
im no expert but it seems to me that since the cigars themsleves are slightly moist-ish, keeping them in the caddy will help keep them that way, not cause them to be...its not the case itself creating the "moisture/humidity". putting a "dry" microphone inside a brand new caddy should not create humidity/moisture?  again, im no scientist lol 
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: backwhereubelong on September 23, 2014, 09:26:49 AM
im no expert but it seems to me that since the cigars themsleves are slightly moist-ish, keeping them in the caddy will help keep them that way, not cause them to be...its not the case itself creating the "moisture/humidity". putting a "dry" microphone inside a brand new caddy should not create humidity/moisture?  again, im no scientist lol

I am a "Cigar Connoisseur", for lack of a better term, on cigars & accessories and you are correct.  A cigar caddy and a humidor is two separate animals.  One is made to protect (caddy) and the other to preserve (humidor).  Cigar caddy's are 110% safe for mics and capsules.  Using a caddy (with a silica gel packet) is optimal protection for our beloved mics.
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: Fried Chicken Boy on September 23, 2014, 01:26:51 PM
im no expert but it seems to me that since the cigars themsleves are slightly moist-ish, keeping them in the caddy will help keep them that way, not cause them to be...its not the case itself creating the "moisture/humidity". putting a "dry" microphone inside a brand new caddy should not create humidity/moisture?  again, im no scientist lol

I am a "Cigar Connoisseur", for lack of a better term, on cigars & accessories and you are correct.  A cigar caddy and a humidor is two separate animals.  One is made to protect (caddy) and the other to preserve (humidor).  Cigar caddy's are 110% safe for mics and capsules.  Using a caddy (with a silica gel packet) is optimal protection for our beloved mics.

As a former tobacco shop manager, +1/T on what BWUB wrote.  I've been using both the Cigar Caddys and Pelican cases along with silica packets for my mics for years and they work great.  If you're worried about the foam lining of the cases shedding and getting into the sensitive parts of your mics, the sandwich bag technique Gene Poole suggested has you covered. 
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: wharfratjoe on September 25, 2014, 03:05:47 AM
Thanks to another taper that posted setup's i saw here, I use this http://www.amazon.com/Cigar-Caddy-HUM-CC5-Caddy%C2%AE-3400/dp/B0007VWETM

I only have one pair but i keep my caps in it and then added extra foam padding so nothing moves
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: F.O.Bean on September 29, 2014, 01:50:30 AM
Drool, DSatz :) I only hope and strive to have that many Schoeps caps in my lifetime lol :) RAQNasty, I used to keep my 480s in a Pelican 1060 case. Its airproof/waterproof/dustproof, and you can buy that pink anti-static foam to replace the stock 1060 foam and youre all set. It will hold 480 bodies and all 3 sets of ck61/62/63 caps if you keep one pair of caps on the bodies. It fits the 480s perfectly bro ;)
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: TSNéa on September 30, 2014, 08:40:10 AM
I keep mine rolled up in a sandwich bag with a desiccant pack.  I change out the pack every few months.

Thanks for this very interesting thread.
I hope not to be too off topic with this question: I went on eBay, searched for Silica Gel packs and found lots of cheap offers... What should I be aware of before buying? I need a few packs for a pair of mics in their box, single mics and my recorder, separately.
Every idea is welcome!
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: Gene Poole on September 30, 2014, 02:01:23 PM
I keep mine rolled up in a sandwich bag with a desiccant pack.  I change out the pack every few months.

Thanks for this very interesting thread.
I hope not to be too off topic with this question: I went on eBay, searched for Silica Gel packs and found lots of cheap offers... What should I be aware of before buying? I need a few packs for a pair of mics in their box, single mics and my recorder, separately.
Every idea is welcome!

You should be fine with ebay stuff as long as it is new and sealed.  They can be recycled too.  I used to do this by putting them in the oven at like 250 for an hour or so, but I get them from my brother now.  His company replaces a lot of harddisks and they all come with a perfectly sized packet stuffed in the bottom of the anti-static mylar bag.

If you know anyone who takes prilosec, I understand that each bottle of the OTC stuff has a desiccant pouch in it as well.
Title: Re: Mic storage?
Post by: TSNéa on October 01, 2014, 03:15:37 AM
OK! Thanks for your answer, and for the oven thing...