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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: waltmon on December 15, 2014, 03:18:07 PM
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Price is awesome...curious how they did in the field...
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wouldn't they be the same as the TLM170r's in Card position?
From reading around it looks like the TLM193 is more inline with the TLM170
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I have a pair and have used them with much success for outdoor shows. Indoors, not so much.
Two examples:
https://archive.org/details/PhilLesh2013-06-09.nyctaper
http://www.nyctaper.com/2014/07/phish-july-11-2014-randalls-island-flacmp3streaming/
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Dan at NYCTaper runs a set of TLM-102's on occasion. We taped side by side at Mountain Jam last year and I think his Phil & Friends pull with them was great, one of the best of that set. You might want to reach out to him for his personal opinion but a handful of his 102 recordings are here, most of them matrixed with a board feed so you unfortunately won't be getting the "pure" Neumann sound. > http://www.nyctaper.com/tag/neumann-tlm-102/ (http://www.nyctaper.com/tag/neumann-tlm-102/)
Edit to add: Ha, you posted while I was writing mine up, Dan!
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I was thinking they might nicely compliment the 150's for 4 channel.
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Both sound amazing...I'm getting a pair 8)
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I think the ones Dan uses are excellent mics, especially good outdoors. Side by side I have preferred them to Schoeps and MBHO. Also they have a nice small form factor for LDs.
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H2O, I'm trying to understand your question. I think you may have gotten some of your information a little wrong. The TLM 170 uses the K 89 capsule originally developed for the U 89. Size-wise, it's somewhere between what's usually called large-diaphragm (e.g. U 87, U 47) and what's usually called small (e.g. KM anything). The TLM 193 is the single-pattern (cardioid only) microphone that uses this capsule.
But the TLM 102 uses a new, large-diaphragm capsule that isn't used in any other type of microphone, and it doesn't resemble the TLM 170 or its relatives sonically.
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The capsule is also somehow shockmounted internally as well if I understand what Ive read correctly.
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H2O, I'm trying to understand your question. I think you may have gotten some of your information a little wrong. The TLM 170 uses the K89 capsule originally developed for the U 89. Size-wise, it's somewhere between what's usually called large-diaphragm (e.g. U 87, U 47) and what's usually called small (e.g. KM anything). The TLM 193 is the single-pattern (cardioid only) microphone that uses this capsule.
But the TLM 102 uses a new, large-diaphragm capsule that isn't used in any other type of microphone, and it doesn't resemble the TLM 170 or its relatives sonically.
Thanks David,
I was about to post exactly this.
The TLM 102 is a great little mic. for the money (and many prefer it to the TLM 103), but it's certainly no TLM 170.
The TLM 102's capsule is actually a glued capsule (this keeps the outside dimensions down, while maximising diaphragm area) and the back is actually a PCB.
The picture below is clickable to get the larger image:-
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQC4qAoEoLRotkg8FsZ9JCYvSmMRTkYWoe9Y-XC4b6aoAX3BidLJlC4fvE) (https://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/so-much-gear-so-little-time/281397d1331506067-anyone-open-up-tlm102-yet-tlm-102d.jpg)
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I corrected myself in the post a few minutes after I posted the question - I guess I wasn't clear enough
The TLM170 does not resemble the 102 as you all pointed out - and the TLM193 is more in line with the TLM170