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Title: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: tgakidis on February 14, 2015, 07:12:50 AM

Here is my comp of the Telefunken Elektroakustik m60 FET and ELA m260 Tubes. I am hard pressed to find a huge difference but i would love your thoughts. The tubes have a slightly warmer feel and bigger bass presence. The "NOS" configuration was eyeballed and not exact, enjoy.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d16g6ozhlivda8e/AADaGcngj4TX4CGkgpbd5DBGa?dl=0

Matthew Stubbs Trio
2015-02-12
The Pressroom
Portsmouth, NH

Source 1: Telefunken m60/tk60(NOS,Stage-Lip) > Sonosax SX-M2 > Tascam DR-680(24/48)

Source 2: Telefunken ELA m260/tk60(NOS,Stage-Lip) > Sonosax SX-M2 > Tascam DR-680(24/48)

Taped by Ted Gakidis

Song: Uncle Sonny

Samples:
m60-m260_comp.flac (Switches between each source every 10 seconds starting with the m60 FET source)

Uncle_Sonny.m60_FET.flac

Uncle_Sonny.m260_tubes.flac

Whole m60 Source: https://archive.org/details/MatthewsStubbsTrioLiveAtThePressroomOn2015-02-12
 

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: spyder9 on February 14, 2015, 10:24:06 AM

Thanks for sharing Ted.  I prefer the M260.  Do you run the bigass boxes behind them?

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: tgakidis on February 14, 2015, 10:37:23 AM

Do you mean the tube amps? I have a field set with the portable tube amp.

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: tubems on February 14, 2015, 06:36:46 PM

wow, B&H has these listed at $1150 for a pair, the m60's .  that is really cheap!!!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1116009-REG/telefunken_m60_cardioid_stereo_set.html

wow

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: H₂O on February 14, 2015, 07:28:53 PM

If you want just the body (I.e. You already have the capsules) the they are $395 each here

http://www.frontendaudio.com/Telefunken-Elektroakustik-M60-FET-Amplifier-Body-p/9999-16340.htm?gclid=COCB28rY4sMCFVAvgQodBmsAfQ&click=18920

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: tgakidis on February 14, 2015, 07:48:17 PM

Quote from: H₂O on February 14, 2015, 07:28:53 PM

If you want just the body (I.e. You already have the capsules) the they are $395 each here

http://www.frontendaudio.com/Telefunken-Elektroakustik-M60-FET-Amplifier-Body-p/9999-16340.htm?gclid=COCB28rY4sMCFVAvgQodBmsAfQ&click=18920

Or directly from Telefunken http://store.t-funk.com/c/microphones_m60-fet-series

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: F.O.Bean on February 15, 2015, 01:59:02 AM

I actually prefer the m60 FET because of its super quick transients :) Nice work Ted 8)

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: ts on February 15, 2015, 02:16:27 PM

Thanks for the comp Ted! I prefer the M60's. Why? Because I can't afford the 260's. ;D No really, the 260's don't sound 2 1/2 times the price to me.

Edit: ok, not 2 1/2 times.

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: OOK on February 16, 2015, 12:34:47 AM

 :o    >:D    8)........... me liky both

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: F.O.Bean on February 16, 2015, 09:53:36 AM

Quote from: ts on February 15, 2015, 02:16:27 PM

Thanks for the comp Ted! I prefer the M60's. Why? Because I can't afford the 260's. ;D No really, the 260's don't sound 2 1/2 times the price to me.

Damn, I didnt realize there was that much price difference!

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: tgakidis on February 16, 2015, 10:17:04 AM

M60 FET MASTER STEREO SET
Item #M60 FET MASTER STEREO SET
USD$ 1,695.00

(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/15865/product_image/thm/t700_be721f8084e5f318254e3d59a5d76c57.jpg?1416503775)


ELA M 260 STEREO FIELD SET
Item #ELA M 260 STEREO FIELD SET
USD$ 2,895.00

(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/15865/product_image/thm/t700_91d1d7cc488992c8bb530e111f15b47e.jpg?1416503772)

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: johnmuge on February 16, 2015, 11:16:30 AM

I like them both as well !!  Thanks for posting !!!

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: spyder9 on February 16, 2015, 02:11:30 PM

Whatever you do, don't fret if you ever lose the Tele shockmonts.    I bought the exact same ones from a Chinese dealer 4 years ago on eBay.  $20.00 shipped for a pair.

$69.00/ea
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Telefunken-Elektroakustik-M-760-Mount-p/9999-14984.htm?gclid=CJCA1fyU58MCFTQV7AodA3wAjg&click=18920

$11.95/ea
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microphone-Suspension-Shock-Mount-Clip-for-Pencil-Style-Condenser-Mic-Small-/171381454106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e721751a

Title: Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
Post by: sdelsolray on February 20, 2015, 11:56:49 AM

I have a M260 set I purchased used.  In speaking with Alex at Tele USA there are basically three different versions of this mic.  There are two different revisions on the mic amp body motherboard, and there are two different tubes used by Tele.  The Rev 1 board used the NOS Telefunkken tube (made by Ratheon) and the Rev 2 board uses a newer Phillips tube (because they ran out of the NOS Tele tubes).  There are some sets that have the Rev 2 board and the NOS Tele tubes.  This transition happened in about 2011.  Alex called these the sweet spot models.  Of course, if a Rev 1 model is sent to Tele for a new tube, it will get the Phillips tube, so I guess there are four different possible configurations.

I checked out my set with Alex (via serial numbers) and it turns out that I have a pair of the sweet spot mics - Rev 2 board and Tele NOS tubes.