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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Cobiwan on April 14, 2015, 02:04:12 AM
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I'm looking to get a couple of on stage mic stands and was wondering what folks have for recommendations.
Anyone got something they like using?
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I like the Manfrotto 003 backlight base with an extension pole (generally the Lowell 3-footer). Also handy as in the right situation you can use this with a 7ft Manfrotto extension arm and even the 7ft + the Lowell and have a low-profile stand. (Note, I only do that when I can tape the stand to something, such as leaning it against the SBD).
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I have a few standard mic stands that I have hacked down for lower profile. Similar to the picture below.
Then there is also this thread I started awhile back.... http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=110425.msg1474798#msg1474798
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BDoCrELHL._SY355_.jpg)
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I like and used what Ted has posted; and I added to my kit, varying lengths of all thread rod, in 3/8-16 thread; lengths between 1' and 4'. I covered the rod in heat shrink, so it doesn't look so crude. I peened a female 3/8-16 ferrule connector on one end, so that I can screw it onto the 5/8-28->3/8-16 mic stand adaptors. Overall, they make a nice small footprint.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/MokesPics/Chamber-Classical/IMG_4905.JPG.jpg)
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Sorry I can't provide a link but I bought some short (2'-3') light stands off eBay for about $10 ea and in general they have been fine. The only problem I've had is when I have my LSD2 mounted on one and some %^&*& musician kicks it over. Right now I'm working with boundary mics on stage so no stand needed!
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Second vote for the Monfrotto 003 backlight base, partly for good stability partly for versatility. Bought mine as a lightstand with an included 3' single telescopic section, but also use it with various Mok3 inspired heat-shrink covered all-thread rod extension sections, or my own coincident LD mic bar, and it's very stable with heavy LDs on it as long as they aren't up super high. By using a short threaded stud adapter from a superclamp or equivalent, a Shure-vert will plug directly into it, without any extension for super low-profile mic setup under 9" tall.
One of the three legs is provided a threaded hole at the foot, which can also be used to attach a stereo mount or single mic. I drilled and taped the other two legs the same way for small triangular Decca tree-like on stage setups. That also allowed me to used this base inverted and flown in the air as a triangular mic bar atop an extension a few times, clamped to a stair railing. Worked out nicely.
Few old photos of non-standard uses of this base-
First two with the custom coincident LD bar mounted directly in it without an extension;
Second two with LDs attached to the end of each leg, and nothing in the center;
last also with the 3 LDs and the Shure-vert in the center.
Wonder if I have a picture of it flown upside-down somewhere..
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I have tried a few different models. The Ultimate stand has a pretty heavy round base with a small footprint, but not so good with much off-center weight. I have used a Jam stand, but eventually the threads started stripping (most likely due to my abuse.)
I would never recommend any On Stage products for what we do - I have ruined many.
This is my current favorite : http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=10331920&InitialSearch=yes&sts=pi
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I like and used what Ted has posted; and I added to my kit, varying lengths of all thread rod, in 3/8-16 thread; lengths between 1' and 4'. I covered the rod in heat shrink, so it doesn't look so crude. I peened a female 3/8-16 ferrule connector on one end, so that I can screw it onto the 5/8-28->3/8-16 mic stand adaptors. Overall, they make a nice small footprint.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/MokesPics/Chamber-Classical/IMG_4905.JPG.jpg)
? is that a hacked down mic stand--it looks like a regular stand?
? What is the camera looking tripod used for just in front of the projection screen?
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Its a kick drum stand, with an adaptor to reduce thread pitch. On top of that is the smaller diameter 3/8-16 thread rod. Its just like the one in reply #3. I'm right at the edge of the stage, on center, but the pic makes it look off center; I'm the stand to the flute players left.
My seat at these shows is to the stage-left wings, on-stage, but obscured by black, dressed in black. I go to the (usually empty) balcony from there to see the show. I've watched a show or two from the catwalks above the stage as well.
The tripod is a video camera. They went sort of artsy at this show, and had a bunch of camera angles projected on the screen. I'm in the balcony taking pictures, so the tripod looks taller than it was. That angle showed the maestros frontal angle.
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Thanks.
Does anyone have an opinion on which of these alternatives is the least tippy? (manfrotto light stand base v. impact light stand base v. cut down folding microphone stand v. kick drum stand?)
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get a sandbag stage weight bag. throw it on the stand base. that sucker isn't going to budge.
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Bogen 3373. Pull the plastic tips off the legs, hack them so the stand folds up neatly, then epoxy the caps back on.
http://www.amazon.com/Bogen-3373-Section-Light-Retractable/dp/B00009XV2E
It's hard to go wrong with a good sturdy light stand.
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Stability is primarily a question of either more weight or a wider leg stance, and secondarily how wobbly the geometry is and how flexible the construction materials are. Heavy with smaller footprint or lighter with a wide one. Then it's all about how much weight you need to put up atop the stand and how high you need to go, and if it's centered on the base or not.
That probably all qualifies as obvious and doesn't help much.
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The reason I asked is it is so difficult to judge one model v. another looking on the internet. I'm sort of thinking I want to fabricate some carbon fiber tubes for the upright portion to end up with a stand that is stable, but is the least obtrusive on stage as possible. The PITA part of the thing to me would be the base itself so the base is the part I would be most interested in buying.
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I'm loving the comments so far. I'm leaning toward the manfrotto light base and half pole but I'm also wanting a stage stand or two that can go from like 18" to 36". So I'm torn. Please keep the recommendations coming. Thanks everyone!
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That light stand base acidjack linked, and in my photos above is stable, low, wide, and heavy (the legs are steel). It a bit over-heavy for my preference, but folds pretty compactly. It might be appropriate for what you describe because you can put the appropriate diameter of stock tubing directly into it without any kind of threaded connection. I didn't make that stainless LD vert bar with the intention of using it in combination with that base, it has a 3/8" nut welded to the bottom and a threaded stud at the top, for connection to a normal stand. The stainless tubing I made it from just happened to fit into the base's socket perfectly and the set-screw knob simple clamps it in place.
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I use a kick drum stand like the one first linked. I've run 2prs of full body mics on a 3ft extension with no tipping problems. Prefer it to a tripod style because it is so much more compact and can be exactly at edge of stage, or right up against raised stage from floor without being a tripping hazard.
I have an Atlas version from Guitar Center that is at least $10 less than the one in the link though.
JAson
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I use a kick drum stand like the one first linked. I've run 2prs of full body mics on a 3ft extension with no tipping problems. Prefer it to a tripod style because it is so much more compact and can be exactly at edge of stage, or right up against raised stage from floor without being a tripping hazard.
I have an Atlas version from Guitar Center that is at least $10 less than the one in the link though.
JAson
I like the way you described its benefits. I think those are excellent points and think I'm gonna go that route. Being able to be at lip seems like a benefit if its stable enough.
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I have one like Gut's, and also this one, which has a nice weighty base:
http://www.amazon.com/-Stage-Stands-MS7311B-Kick-Stand/dp/B0018TG4XY/ref=sr_1_46?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1429375495&sr=1-46&keywords=Mic+stand+on+stage
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I'll reiterate the Manfrotto option cited by acidjack, Gutbucket and others. Compact when collapsed and plays well with other Manfrotto gear (I use the same extension poles with these bases and with my SuperClamp set-up).
If weight is no concern, the K&M stands, like the 25950, are pretty compact when folded and absolutely bulletproof on stage.