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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: MakersMarc on July 30, 2015, 04:17:55 PM
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Thanks!
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Well, there's this ... not X-O's, per se, but close. :)
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=157974.msg1991281
I bought a pair of Naiant X-X's shortly thereafter. ;)
HTH, Chris.
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Yeah, I've got some stuff. It's not what's typically done here. All my recordings are pure acoustic (except for an occasional spot vocal), Jazz & Classical, and VERY big file sizes. I record at 24bit-192k. The smallest file I'll link to here is 274Mb. This one is a very nice piano trio piece of Andrew Lloyd Weber's requiem performed by Seth Trumbore on piano, Keoni Bolding (violin); Peter Lockman (cello). Recorded at Church of the Holy Spirit in Harleysville PA. Naint X-O's at 16" with a homemade Jecklin disc, 84" high about 6ft away; a stock Tascam HD-P2. I can post more links of some Jazz too if anyone is interested.
http://www.adrive.com/public/WXEWDp/08%20Weber%20-%20requiem.wav
Comments welcome!
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Yeah, I've got some stuff. It's not what's typically done here. All my recordings are pure acoustic (except for an occasional spot vocal), Jazz & Classical, and VERY big file sizes. I record at 24bit-192k. The smallest file I'll link to here is 274Mb. This one is a very nice piano trio piece of Andrew Lloyd Weber's requiem performed by Seth Trumbore on piano, Keoni Bolding (violin); Peter Lockman (cello). Recorded at Church of the Holy Spirit in Harleysville PA. Naint X-O's at 16" with a homemade Jecklin disc, 84" high about 6ft away; a stock Tascam HD-P2. I can post more links of some Jazz too if anyone is interested.
http://www.adrive.com/public/WXEWDp/08%20Weber%20-%20requiem.wav
Comments welcome!
Small world - the chamber choir I sing with performed a concert there last year, and Seth was our accompanist. He's awesome, and that's a beautiful acoustic to perform in especially for such a tiny church. The best choir recording I've made yet was that concert (although not with my Naiant mics, but my CM3s.)
When I'm back from traveling, I'm looking forward to listening to your recording. It's also nice to have another Team Classical / Jazz person here. There are Team boards for those, but they get very little action lately.
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Small world - the chamber choir I sing with performed a concert there last year, and Seth was our accompanist. He's awesome, and that's a beautiful acoustic to perform in especially for such a tiny church. The best choir recording I've made yet was that concert (although not with my Naiant mics, but my CM3s.)
When I'm back from traveling, I'm looking forward to listening to your recording. It's also nice to have another Team Classical / Jazz person here. There are Team boards for those, but they get very little action lately.
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How about that - I was there last night, listening to three choirs rehearse for an upcoming concert in Wilkes Barre. It was heavenly...but unfortunately did not get a chance to record it. the actual concert will be incredible if the rehearsal is any sort of predictor.
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Just came across this thread and looking forward to giving this a listen. Been curious about the
Niaint Naiant X mics myself, especially for acoustic music properly recorded in a great room. Thanks for the share.
Edit- I don't know why it's always a coin toss as to whether I spell Naiant correctly or not.
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Yeah, I've got some stuff. It's not what's typically done here. All my recordings are pure acoustic (except for an occasional spot vocal), Jazz & Classical, and VERY big file sizes. I record at 24bit-192k. The smallest file I'll link to here is 274Mb. This one is a very nice piano trio piece of Andrew Lloyd Weber's requiem performed by Seth Trumbore on piano, Keoni Bolding (violin); Peter Lockman (cello). Recorded at Church of the Holy Spirit in Harleysville PA. Naint X-O's at 16" with a homemade Jecklin disc, 84" high about 6ft away; a stock Tascam HD-P2. I can post more links of some Jazz too if anyone is interested.
http://www.adrive.com/public/WXEWDp/08%20Weber%20-%20requiem.wav
Comments welcome!
Thanks for this. Seems nice. I'd be curious/interested about what sorts of jazz.
I've never really been an omni person, though they can work in certain settings. The strings get a very nice full sound in unison on this.
Note: Not that it really matters to me or my connection but you could convert the file to flac to reduce the size a fair bit.
FWIW I know someone who had some of x-o's for a while and he said they didn't handle really loud (rock) sources very well. OP probably records things of that nature so that could be a problem for him. Edit per clarification below: The max SPL they can handle is not high enough for many rock shows.
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The X-O is rated at 132dBSPL, which is similar to many other microphones. The trouble you can have with omnis is they are flat response down to very low frequencies, so a loud show that is say 115dBSPL at 1kHz could be over 132dBSPL at 50Hz. The only solution there is to use a less sensitive omni (the low-sens X-O is rated to 144dBSPL) or a microphone that is not flat-response such as a cardioid.
Thanks for that useful clarification. Most loud rock shows are particularly so because of the very low frequencies so that is certainly a factor.
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More info on the Jazz I recorded can be found here: http://thejazzsanctuary.com/ They are a group of very good musicians who play in various churches in the greater Philly area. The leader (Alan Segal) is a little skittish on allowing the recordings to go out to the public, that's why I haven't put anything out there. (I think that's counterproductive to getting more folks interested, but what do I know?)
As far as SPL handling, the X-O's are fine with any instrument (or combo) that's **unamplified**, drums included. Of course, drums are the most problematic with level setting - most of the time the levels on the Tascam are at 3.5 or so, compared to the classical recording which was at 5.
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OK, so here is an excerpt of some Jazz, recorded in the same place as the classical. http://we.tl/skJOrFLOv4 This link is good for one week. I think it shows how the mics capture drum transients...comments welcome.
This was done with the same setup, but the mics were a lot lower (58" high), and had to be put in a sub-optimal position in deference to the audience's sight-line. Down-sampled to 96K to keep the file size under 100Mb. The song is "Blue Monk", the musicians: Bruce Kaminsky (b), Frank DiBussolo (g), Bruce Klauber (d), Dave DiPalma (sax)