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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: hzgone on April 20, 2004, 03:04:16 AM
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I have read up on mic spacing and angles and have x/y down but that is about it. I would like to try out some new configurations this summer and the best help i have found is from other tapers at shows. I find it very confusing to try and figure out some diffrent configs with the TL's and the akg bar. I also have the shure bar but with these mics nothing seems correct. Even when i look at dpa or any of the other sources from diffrent configs nothing seems correct with the TL's. I haven't been taping that long and would like to hear what my mics can sound like without being in x/y. I'm sure this isn't an easy thing to explain or maybe i'm just not seeing what i'm supposed to. Thanks for any help you can give.
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try this site...
http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/Menu10.html
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yessir, what he said... a favorite of mine is DIN, just a suggestion for one of those pick from and mess around with
travis
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Awesome page! Does anyone have anything like that setup for smaller diaphram mics, like the MC012s?
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so how do you measure the angle? I have pieces that are 17,20,30 cm
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Scuba - http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=20;action=display;threadid=12241;start=msg149732#msg149732
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Great website. I dont do enough with different patterns esp since I got my tl's
try this site...
http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/Menu10.html
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Then neumann site was great. Thanks for the links, can't wait to try out some diffrent configs
+T for everyone. Thanks for the links and the helpful info.
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so how do you measure the angle? I have pieces that are 17,20,30 cm
I also have pieces of those lengths, but a good way for me of figuring out angles is to start at 90* and eyeball it. Even if you're not dead on 80* or 110* etc... that's the part of experimentation that makes for great tapes, IMO
travis
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do you measure from the center if the cap
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Yes.
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Awesome, +T for the link, and I have to go back and +T Mr. pnobles as well for making those pretty pictures. I still need to go out and get me one of those vert. bars....
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http://www.dpamicrophones.com/eng_pub/MicUni/131.html
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try this site...
http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/Menu10.html
Awesome site- thanks dude!
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To add to the original question, and of course, I know the answers aren't really simple, but what do you use to decide which config to use?
I tape mostly in crappy bars w/ poor room acoustics and/or poor sounds systems, so I usually use the Hyper config on my TL's, and I have read that XY will limit the boominess, so I have pretty much been using that exclusively.
I am wondering though- what are the criteria that one would use in deciding to run DIN or ORTF instead of XY?
I am also always afraid of making a recording that blows too...
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Do you think that, overall, the differences are subtle? If so, I might not need to worry so much about not pulling a crappy tape...
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Does the physical height of the mic matter when using DIN or ORTF? All I have is a vert bar, and I can approximate thes configs with the vert bar, but one mic is a little higher than the other... is this problematic?
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nope
flip flop the mounts, and the different pieces of the shure bar, and you can get them very close to right on in height. But, to your question,..... A little difference between the height of the mics won't matter.
Yeah, that's what I did, got them as close as possible!
Appreciate the help yet again!
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