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Title: SF 7.0 question???
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 07, 2004, 08:46:35 AM

well, i have had it on my comp for quite awhile now, and after resampling about 300 sets at least, it wont let me register online w/ them, saying it cant find a 'soundforge.error'??

i have no clue what to do, ive uninstalled, installed, restarted, everything

any help would be appreciated

also, if wavelab 4.0c is DEF good on the resampling end(which i believe the resampling has bugs in version c), even tho i thought thats what it was, other ppl have told me that wavelab version c's bug is its uv22hr dithering, so i dont know which way to go, if wavelabs resampling is golden, i wont even worry about sf7.0, but any help is apprecitaed

thanks,
  bean

Title: Re:SF 7.0 question???
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 08, 2004, 03:11:09 AM

so, is wavelab 4.0c tried and true for resampling??? and also, whos got my sf7.0 help???

thanks

bean

Title: Re:SF 7.0 question???
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 08, 2004, 06:16:07 AM

heres exactly what the error says, once its installed and everything and then i try to register, it says exactly this:

"An error occured starting SoundForge.Error
0x8004e153(message missing)"

thanks guyz, any help is appreciated

Title: Re:SF 7.0 question???
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 09, 2004, 08:30:50 AM

bump

Title: Re:SF 7.0 question???
Post by: caymanreview on May 09, 2004, 01:26:34 PM

wavelab 4.0c has an error(s) in its apogee dithering tool, i DO know that

Title: Re:SF 7.0 question???
Post by: BC on May 09, 2004, 06:39:42 PM

Quote from: bean on May 07, 2004, 08:46:35 AM

also, if wavelab 4.0c is DEF good on the resampling end(which i believe the resampling has bugs in version c), even tho i thought thats what it was, other ppl have told me that wavelab version c's bug is its uv22hr dithering, so i dont know which way to go, if wavelabs resampling is golden, i wont even worry about sf7.0, but any help is apprecitaed

thanks,
  bean

The bug in Wavelab 4.0c dither is with the UV22hr. I think the UV22 dither is implemented correctly though.

The reason I don't use Wavelab for resampling is because it seems to resample very fast. I would estimate it resamples 2-4x as fast as soundforge on quality setting 4 with anti-alias filtering. My problem with this is that resampling is a very mathematically intensive process, leading me to believe that Wavelab's algorithm is not as accurate or high quality. I would guess that the only ways to speed up a resampling process is either to decrease the accuracy of the resampling or to get a faster processor. However, I haven't done any actual AB comparisons of the various resampled files to see if I can hear a difference.

I don't know what to tell ya' about the error, except that if you can't get it working I would bet 6.0 and 5.0 have pretty much the same resampling capabilities.

Take care,
Ben

Title: Re:SF 7.0 question???
Post by: nic on May 09, 2004, 10:16:45 PM

Quote from: BC on May 09, 2004, 06:39:42 PM

Quote from: bean on May 07, 2004, 08:46:35 AM

also, if wavelab 4.0c is DEF good on the resampling end(which i believe the resampling has bugs in version c), even tho i thought thats what it was, other ppl have told me that wavelab version c's bug is its uv22hr dithering, so i dont know which way to go, if wavelabs resampling is golden, i wont even worry about sf7.0, but any help is apprecitaed

thanks,
  bean

The bug in Wavelab 4.0c dither is with the UV22hr. I think the UV22 dither is implemented correctly though.

The reason I don't use Wavelab for resampling is because it seems to resample very fast. I would estimate it resamples 2-4x as fast as soundforge on quality setting 4 with anti-alias filtering. My problem with this is that resampling is a very mathematically intensive process, leading me to believe that Wavelab's algorithm is not as accurate or high quality. I would guess that the only ways to speed up a resampling process is either to decrease the accuracy of the resampling or to get a faster processor. However, I haven't done any actual AB comparisons of the various resampled files to see if I can hear a difference.

I don't know what to tell ya' about the error, except that if you can't get it working I would bet 6.0 and 5.0 have pretty much the same resampling capabilities.

Take care,
Ben

haven't messed with Wavelab that much, but I do know in Soundforge, the resample takes the same amount of time whether you set its accuracy to 1 or 4.
its the antialias filter that causes the entire resample process to take so long

Title: Re:SF 7.0 question???
Post by: F.O.Bean on May 10, 2004, 08:18:26 AM

thanks guyz, just the feedback i was looking for

i was thinking the same thing about sf taking that long, thats why i have been using it exclusively