Hi,
I am looking for an alternative CA-11 Model but without LowSense Mod fir quiet shows like theatre.
Is there any conparabale mic, buyable in Europe?
Best regards
DPAs are available in Europe, right? If so the 4060 might fit the bill. If you have more of a CA11 budget, though, DPAs are probably not in the running.
These mics are widely available in Europe. Should be suitable for quiet up to loud, but not too loud, shows.
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=180158.0
You can try primo caps for ambient recordings. They are very quite, but they are limited around 14kHz. Look at datasheet, there is frequency chart.
http://micbooster.com/primo-microphone-capsules/98-mono-clippy-em172-microphone.html
Maybe those ones, handmade in Norway?
QuoteSpecs:
Characteristics: Omni
Sensitivity: -28dB ± 3dB at 1kHz (38mV/Pa) at 5V
Impedance: 2.4kOhm
Max Input Level: 122dB S.P.L. Typ
Signal to Noise Ratio: >78dB
Self Noise: <15dB
Operating Voltage 2-10V (5V ideal)
Here:
https://www.luhd-mics.com/store/p19/PM-01AB_Stereo_Microphone.html
https://www.luhd-mics.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html
FWIW.
Sennheiser makes some very nice, high-sensitivity small mics. Either omnis or cards. They are widely available in Europe.
You might need to re-terminate them, though, and they will be a bit more expensive than Church. Pricewise, in between the CAs and the DPAs (which I think are great, by the way)...
How about Soundman.de in-ear mics? From Germany. They're tiny and very detailed and about the same price as CA-11.
http://www.soundman.de/
If you can figure out the confusing website, or just email Soundman, they can tell you what the right mics are for you--they have various sensitivities. They respond quickly to email.
You probably do NOT need the most expensive ones, which are very precisely matched for studio recording.
I run Soundman-->battery box-->Line-in-->Sony PCM-M10 to record loud live music. For what it's worth, I've seen disappointed reviews about the Soundman battery module, which is only 6 volts. Since the mics can handle up to 10 volts, I use a 9V battery box with them that I already owned (SoundProfessionals).
But you're not recording loud music. You're recording quiet sounds, and if you're using a preamp, or a recorder with a good built-in mic preamp, you wouldn't need a battery module at all.
If you're happy with the CA-11's, but need better range at a similar budget, try the CA-14's.
I've got a pair of Jonas Gruska's Usi Pro mics based on the EM172 capsule and find them decent for ambient recording in quiet settings. He's got a preorder going now for them: https://lom-label.myshopify.com/ (https://lom-label.myshopify.com/). He's based in Europe. Note that delivery wouldn't be for a couple of months.
Thanks for all posts. But I definetly want to go for card microphones. Unfortunately all mics are omnis :(
You could try some of the small AT cards (like the AT853). I think they make/made some that were designed for hanging over a chorus and that sort of thing.
Quote from: thebeaker on February 26, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
Thanks for all posts. But I definetly want to go for card microphones. Unfortunately all mics are omnis :(
Like I already said, if you like the CA-11's., than try the CA-14's. They are available in both Cardioid and Omni and are far superior to the CA-11's.
Quote from: nak700s on February 26, 2018, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: thebeaker on February 26, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
Thanks for all posts. But I definetly want to go for card microphones. Unfortunately all mics are omnis :(
Like I already said, if you like the CA-11's., than try the CA-14's. They are available in both Cardioid and Omni and are far superior to the CA-11's.
The ca-14 cards are better yes.
The ca-11 omnis are better than the ca-14 onmis.
Quote from: thebeaker on February 19, 2018, 10:51:03 AM
Hi,
I am looking for an alternative CA-11 Model but without LowSense Mod fir quiet shows like theatre.
Is there any conparabale mic, buyable in Europe?
Best regards
I don't understand it? Do you already have the ca-11's?
Why not go mic in for quit shows? Or use a good preamp?
I tried my ca11 and had to add 40db gain. That was a very noisey record... It was a non amplified theatre
^ More sensitive mics would definitely help. Sennheiser does make some high-sensitivity cardioid lavaliers (ME4 at 40 mV/Pa and MKE40 at 42 mV/Pa). I don't have any experience with either, but their miniature omnis are quite good, and, of course, they are a pretty highly regarded manufacturer. Maybe worth taking a look?
Quote from: robeti on March 02, 2018, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: nak700s on February 26, 2018, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: thebeaker on February 26, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
Thanks for all posts. But I definetly want to go for card microphones. Unfortunately all mics are omnis :(
Like I already said, if you like the CA-11's., than try the CA-14's. They are available in both Cardioid and Omni and are far superior to the CA-11's.
The ca-14 cards are better yes.
The ca-11 omnis are better than the ca-14 onmis.
Really? Huh, go figure :shrug:
Quote from: thebeaker on March 02, 2018, 03:05:17 PM
I tried my ca11 and had to add 40db gain. That was a very noisey record... It was a non amplified theatre
Are you recording at 24bit? Preferably at a high sample rate... If so, worry about the quality and not the volume that you record a. If you are using 24/96, you could jack the levels in post and shouldn't hear any difference. With my CA-1's I use the CA9200, and get no unwanted noise. Ever. What are you using for a pre?