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Title: Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: snapple ryes on May 28, 2004, 05:33:10 PM
so i read up on the manuals for my MS722 deck, and what i found was that recording in mono gave you twice the amount of recording time on a minidisc. so my question is, is there any downside from recording in mono?
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Sean Gallemore on May 28, 2004, 05:45:06 PM
if you use a stereo mic or a stereo pair of mics it will not matter.  One channel will be duplicated to both
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: tooldvn on May 28, 2004, 09:28:37 PM
It just sounds.... off.  Don't do it. I can't listen to a tape if its in mono, too painful.

-dvn
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Zaphod on May 28, 2004, 10:00:41 PM
But recording in mono would be good if you got a SBD patch that was mono right?
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: tooldvn on May 28, 2004, 10:08:15 PM
Sure, it wouldn't matter then, but I thought he was talking about with a pair of mics...  I know a guy who only tapes in Mono, and its hideous.

Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Sean Gallemore on May 28, 2004, 10:21:03 PM
if yer gonna do stack tapes, no reason NOT to go mono
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: zhianosatch on May 28, 2004, 10:24:08 PM
still sounds hideous, but can ya guess why? ;)
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Sean Gallemore on May 28, 2004, 10:25:29 PM
starts with an "s" and ends with an "ACK!!!"
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: zhianosatch on May 28, 2004, 10:27:41 PM
schwack?
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Zaphod on May 28, 2004, 10:29:38 PM
Sure, it wouldn't matter then, but I thought he was talking about with a pair of mics...  I know a guy who only tapes in Mono, and its hideous.



For sure I know you wouldn't want to record in mono with mics.

I just wanted to throw in my assumtion that mono mode wouldn't make a difference if the board patch is mono.
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on May 29, 2004, 12:51:17 AM
If you are planning on only taping in mono, then only use one microphone. If you use two, you run the risk of introducing phasing into your recording, and once it's in mono, you're stuck with it, no chance to save it.

I would suggest taping it in stereo, NON-LP!! I don't think the 722 is MDLP compatible, but as it is, you're losing quality with ATRAC sampling. Just put a title on each of the discs you are going to record on, and just get good at the tape flip. It's worth it in the end.

And even if you are "stack taping", it is nice to have the audience in stereo.
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: tooldvn on May 29, 2004, 01:02:12 AM
if yer gonna do stack tapes, no reason NOT to go mono

Bullshit. Listen to Greg's Tool or APC, dunebug81 or something he goes by.  His sound like COMPLETE ass, compare it to some of my stack tapes or Smagma's. I believe I might even be able to find you a direct comparison of his Tallahassee vs Mine.   CSB's>Sharp MD.  Both of us right next to each other, his in Mono.  I don't care if you guys don't like stack tapes, but there IS a sound difference stereo vs mono.

-dvn
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Sean Gallemore on May 29, 2004, 01:06:43 AM
if yer gonna do stack tapes, no reason NOT to go mono

Bullshit. Listen to Greg's Tool or APC, dunebug81 or something he goes by.  His sound like COMPLETE ass, compare it to some of my stack tapes or Smagma's. I believe I might even be able to find you a direct comparison of his Tallahassee vs Mine.   CSB's>Sharp MD.  Both of us right next to each other, his in Mono.  I don't care if you guys don't like stack tapes, but there IS a sound difference stereo vs mono.

-dvn


he only taped one of those in mono.  I know because I have the misfortune of owning the masters.  And my statement was more of a jab at only recording half the concert ;)
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Sean Gallemore on May 29, 2004, 01:08:20 AM
if yer gonna do stack tapes, no reason NOT to go mono

Bullshit. Listen to Greg's Tool or APC, dunebug81 or something he goes by.  His sound like COMPLETE ass, compare it to some of my stack tapes or Smagma's. I believe I might even be able to find you a direct comparison of his Tallahassee vs Mine.   CSB's>Sharp MD.  Both of us right next to each other, his in Mono.  I don't care if you guys don't like stack tapes, but there IS a sound difference stereo vs mono.

-dvn


I'd compare it to yours if any were in circulation
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: Mobius on May 29, 2004, 06:29:39 AM
zing!

...c'mon, play nice ;)

Mono lacks a certain depth, tis true, but sometimes it is unavoidable (one or two of mine have a completely fucked channel so i gots to use nothin but the good one)

That being said, it's definately prefferable to know the set structure going into a show, and doin a tape flip - just dont be too drunk or too sober, you'll get edgy and botch it ;)

Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: taperkat on May 29, 2004, 11:08:49 AM
mono on a 722 gets phase shifts out the ass. Stereo = only setting to use.

With that said I have 3 mono discs, all shows taped from Minicassette handheld thing by a 15 year old girl. (all something corporate 2001-2002 shows) ... but otherwise, mono = crap.
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: hoobash on May 29, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
I wouldnt have a problem with a mono sbd becuase most sbd are mono anyway. Even if they do mix stereo alot of times its very little
Title: Re:Recording in 'mono' mode on MD
Post by: zhianosatch on May 29, 2004, 11:59:40 AM
 ;) ;)