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Title: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: Tye on June 08, 2004, 12:16:16 PM

I found a cheap deck I would like to use for transfers on ebay. The thing is it is a DCC player and it comes with tapes like Reba Mcentire , Spyro Gyro ect. the tapes seem to be studio releases with covers and all . I emailed the guy and he says yes it is digital audio tape. But my guess is he does not know the diffrence. Anyone know what DCC is and is it the same as DAT?Is it something along the lines of DSS?           Thanks

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: zowie on June 08, 2004, 12:38:35 PM

It is not the same as DAT.  DCC is a failed format that was backward compatible with analogue cassette.

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: Weazel on June 08, 2004, 12:41:12 PM

dcc is digital compact cassette invented by phillips, its not the same as DAT. It's not supported by phillips anymore for some several years.

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: Tye on June 08, 2004, 01:34:41 PM

thanks much guys. I thought that might be the case.

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: Todd R on June 08, 2004, 02:17:09 PM

Also notable is that DCC was not lossless like DAT, but used some form of data compression.

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: seethreepo on June 08, 2004, 11:02:14 PM

there are unscrupulous types on ebay trying to pass these dcc decks off as DAT all the time. 
 ::)

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: Popmarter on June 09, 2004, 08:24:21 AM

all true, but a bit of a shame. Friend of mine has used them back in 1997 to tape a few U2 shows, with amazing results  ;D But, yes i doubt if there are still empty tapes left..  :-\

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: zowie on June 09, 2004, 10:49:15 AM

Quote from: Todd R on June 08, 2004, 02:17:09 PM

Also notable is that DCC was not lossless like DAT, but used some form of data compression.

My recollection -- which could be wrong after all these years -- was not that they used compression but that it was like an inferior 13 or 14 bit system.

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on June 09, 2004, 03:09:02 PM

I wonder how these would sound next to modern day ATRAC?

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: George on June 09, 2004, 05:33:36 PM

Quote from: zowie on June 09, 2004, 10:49:15 AM

Quote from: Todd R on June 08, 2004, 02:17:09 PM

Also notable is that DCC was not lossless like DAT, but used some form of data compression.

My recollection -- which could be wrong after all these years -- was not that they used compression but that it was like an inferior 13 or 14 bit system.

http://home.netvigator.com/~ntomyng/dcc900/

Clau\ims the format is 16 bit and used compression.

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: Depechemode1993 on June 10, 2004, 03:23:00 PM

anyone know where I can get a DCC! I would definately want one!

Title: Re: Is DCC the same as DAT???????
Post by: BobW on June 13, 2004, 11:46:13 PM

Quote from: gloco on June 09, 2004, 05:33:36 PM

Quote from: zowie on June 09, 2004, 10:49:15 AM

Quote from: Todd R on June 08, 2004, 02:17:09 PM

Also notable is that DCC was not lossless like DAT, but used some form of data compression.

My recollection -- which could be wrong after all these years -- was not that they used compression but that it was like an inferior 13 or 14 bit system.

http://home.netvigator.com/~ntomyng/dcc900/

Clau\ims the format is 16 bit and used compression.

Companding, if my aged memory is still there.  In the heyday of Dolby, compression and expansion at playback were considered ne plus ultra.  Now it seems arcane for a digital format.