Ive been trying to listen to recordings from different sources and i keep seeing fob recordings that list dfc. is dfc a configuration? ive searched with no luck. could someone point me to a link that explains it? thanks!
dead fuckin center
you might also encounter ROC (Right of Center) and LOC (Left of Center) and BTP (Back to Paul -- another way of saying FOB). Good luck deciphering all our garbage.
dfc/fob/din!!!!~!~!~1!~1`!~!
Quote from: dre on June 10, 2004, 10:56:59 AM
dead fuckin center
too funny...im searching expecting some detailed explanation. thanks peeps.
Quote from: sirwalter on June 10, 2004, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: dre on June 10, 2004, 10:56:59 AM
dead fuckin center
too funny...im searching expecting some detailed explanation. thanks peeps.
lol, won't fins that here, we're simply minded creatures us tapirs
Sir Walter, moelinks.com has a great site written by Jon McLennen tucked deep within it's massive archives that might help you out.
The Incomplete Guide to Deciphering Those Confusing Combinations of Letters and Numbers that Seem All Too Important to Some People (http://www.moelinks.com/random/source/)
"The goal of this little endeavor is to help in aiding moe.rons in finding out exactly what
AfDm 44.1 3:21:00 scms=00 FOB- Front Left@SBD B&K 4021s (~12')>Apogee AD 1000 (+20)>HHb (m)
means. Not only what it means, but how it affects you and those you love. For those of you who are not initiated into the Occult of Anal Tapers, OAT if you will, this will be your crash course in reading source info. "
You'll find the equipment critiqued is a little outdated, but I think it has a nice section describing source lineage acronyms. If I ever find the time, and get Jon's permission, I'm going to petition to revamp the hell outta it.
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue! ::)
Quote from: heath on June 10, 2004, 10:59:48 AM
BTP (Back to Paul -- another way of saying FOB)
who coined this one?
kev
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue! ::)
You could also, in a similar vein, sorta "debunk" DFC as being a meaningful attribute as sometimes in smaller venues the sweet spot is not "on center".
Quote from: npsinboro on June 10, 2004, 11:38:34 AM
The Incomplete Guide to Deciphering Those Confusing Combinations of Letters and Numbers that Seem All Too Important to Some People (http://www.moelinks.com/random/source/)
Or, as it's known to those in the know, TIGtDTCCoLaNtSATItSP. ;D
Quote from: npsinboro on June 10, 2004, 11:59:03 AM
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue! ::)
You could also, in a similar vein, sorta "debunk" DFC as being a meaningful attribute as sometimes in smaller venues the sweet spot is not "on center".
image center is not necessarily dfc in any situation. it's probably a good starting point but you should walk the room a bit to find the true image center...
Quote from: Trey Is Wilson on June 10, 2004, 02:58:25 PM
image center is not necessarily dfc in any situation. it's probably a good starting point but you should walk the room a bit to find the true image center...
Also good feedback, though the image center for the opening band won't necessarily be the image center for the headliner, or for the following night's shows, etc. At least not in my experience.
DFC at 17' is the only way to tape. ;D
Quote from: John Kelly on June 10, 2004, 07:45:34 PM
DFC at 17' is the only way to tape. ;D
you must tape bands with screaming girls for "fans" ;)
FOH DFC is the way to go! ;D
This is quick in becoming like the taping fallices thread. :)
I haven't seen any fallacies yet, only facts. ;D
Quote from: Tim on June 10, 2004, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: John Kelly on June 10, 2004, 07:45:34 PM
DFC at 17' is the only way to tape. ;D
you must tape bands with screaming girls for "fans" ;)
I must've misinterpreted these comments.
Although with all the talk of DFC not always being the sweet spot, it could be argued that DFC being always the best is somewhat of a fallacy.
To bad most of us tapers don't know the scientific equation that always equals sweet spot. :)
even if we knew the equations for the sweet spot, we'd have to convince the ppl that have those spots to hit the road!!
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue! ::)
I've gone so far as to list my spot as 12" or 18" ROC - if I can hear and see that it's not truly DFC, then I make sho to be ackerate.
Quote from: Zaphod on June 10, 2004, 08:56:52 PM
To bad most of us tapers don't know the scientific equation that always equals sweet spot. :)
while you can get the theoretically sweet spot using the equilateral triangle method it is all theoretical. As many have said previously in this thread actual image center is not always physical center.
I've had some interesting experiences with dfc not necessarily being image center. I ran about 2 feet roc for mc5 and seemed to get a nicer image than stepping into dfc, a little boom and less detail there. Not the first time I've noticed that for sure.
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue! ::)
personally, I use the 2 foot rule, I don't list sources as 18" LOC. :)
Quote from: RobC on June 14, 2004, 08:44:55 PM
personally, I use the 2 foot rule, I don't list sources as 18" LOC. :)
Do you use that kind of estimation for the ladies, too? ;)
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue! ::)
Also funny how everything gets listed as FOB, even if the mics are 2 ft in front of the board vs way up front in the sweet spot...
gotta list a distance from stage to give a perspective
my perception is sometimes altered at shows and i am unable to guesstimate a distance.
Quote from: BC on June 15, 2004, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue! ::)
Also funny how everything gets listed as FOB, even if the mics are 2 ft in front of the board vs way up front in the sweet spot...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't FOB simply mean "Front of Board?"
Ok, makes sense. But in every other situation it's simply front of board, right?