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Title: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: JoshMoores03 on September 04, 2024, 12:18:34 PM
Next summer I'm going to be attending a gig at Wembley stadium and I want to record it. My seats very high up and I wonder whether anyone can give any advice.
This is where I'll be sat
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: Kyle K on September 04, 2024, 04:57:29 PM
What advice are you looking for, exactly?

If gear, need an idea of budget.

If technique, need an idea of gear.

Stadium shows are usually harder to get stuff into...

And it looks like your stuff didn't attach.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: yltfan on September 04, 2024, 05:14:21 PM
My advice: don't bother.

If your seats are very high up, I doubt it will be likely you get a decent recording. If it's a popular band (I assume it is, given the venue), someone else will probably record from a better location.

But if you really want to record, answer lmgbtapes questions, and people will have plenty of advice to offer.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: Scooter123 on September 04, 2024, 08:18:49 PM
+1  Really high up?  Nah, don't bother.  Or try to get an ALD signal. 
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: Niels on September 05, 2024, 04:56:01 AM
I agree with above - it probably won’t be good regardless of approach, but if you are just looking for a personal memento/record of your personal experience, you could use a pair of binaural microphones that could pass as headphones.

I’d imagine the security at Wembly will be strict but a smartphone and a headset are rarely prohibited.
My iPhone and Sennheiser Ambeo headset have never raised an eyebrow.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: JoshMoores03 on September 05, 2024, 05:35:09 AM
What advice are you looking for, exactly?

If gear, need an idea of budget.

If technique, need an idea of gear.

Stadium shows are usually harder to get stuff into...

And it looks like your stuff didn't attach. 


Technique mainly I'm going to be running a Sony ICD PX240 with an additional microphone. From what I've seen I'll be dead on from the stage and they usually hang speakers pretty close so I should be able to get a good sound. The microphone shouldn't be an issue getting in but the recorder could prove difficult but I'm also considering binaural headphone/ mics. Any advice?
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: JoshMoores03 on September 05, 2024, 05:39:12 AM
I agree with above - it probably won’t be good regardless of approach, but if you are just looking for a personal memento/record of your personal experience, you could use a pair of binaural microphones that could pass as headphones.

I’d imagine the security at Wembly will be strict but a smartphone and a headset are rarely prohibited.
My iPhone and Sennheiser Ambeo headset have never raised an eyebrow.

Thank you i don't know what your experiences are but none of the shows I go to get taped, which is a bit annoying as it would mean a lot to be able to relive that experience
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: beroti_music on September 05, 2024, 08:58:15 AM
I agree with above - it probably won’t be good regardless of approach, but if you are just looking for a personal memento/record of your personal experience, you could use a pair of binaural microphones that could pass as headphones.

I’d imagine the security at Wembly will be strict but a smartphone and a headset are rarely prohibited.
My iPhone and Sennheiser Ambeo headset have never raised an eyebrow.

Nice headset! Is it omni?
What program you use on your phone to record?
Csn you set levels?
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: beroti_music on September 05, 2024, 08:59:08 AM
Next summer I'm going to be attending a gig at Wembley stadium and I want to record it. My seats very high up and I wonder whether anyone can give any advice.
This is where I'll be sat

Congrats on scoring an Oasis ticket!
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: beroti_music on September 05, 2024, 09:01:00 AM
I agree with above - it probably won’t be good regardless of approach, but if you are just looking for a personal memento/record of your personal experience, you could use a pair of binaural microphones that could pass as headphones.

I’d imagine the security at Wembly will be strict but a smartphone and a headset are rarely prohibited.
My iPhone and Sennheiser Ambeo headset have never raised an eyebrow.

Thank you i don't know what your experiences are but none of the shows I go to get taped, which is a bit annoying as it would mean a lot to be able to relive that experience

Then tape!
I recorded in stadiums from the nosebleeds with good results. Sometimes you're lucky and you're in front of a delay PA. Happened to me at a Police show at their reunion tour. Audio came out great!
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: JoshMoores03 on September 05, 2024, 09:04:48 AM
Next summer I'm going to be attending a gig at Wembley stadium and I want to record it. My seats very high up and I wonder whether anyone can give any advice.
This is where I'll be sat

Congrats on scoring an Oasis ticket!


Thank you :) someone on their forum recommended I get a SP-CMC-2 and a Rode SC6L to get a good sound from my position and avoid any unwanted interest from security. Any advice you can give?
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: JoshMoores03 on September 05, 2024, 09:06:12 AM
I agree with above - it probably won’t be good regardless of approach, but if you are just looking for a personal memento/record of your personal experience, you could use a pair of binaural microphones that could pass as headphones.

I’d imagine the security at Wembly will be strict but a smartphone and a headset are rarely prohibited.
My iPhone and Sennheiser Ambeo headset have never raised an eyebrow.

Thank you i don't know what your experiences are but none of the shows I go to get taped, which is a bit annoying as it would mean a lot to be able to relive that experience

Then tape!
I recorded in stadiums from the nosebleeds with good results. Sometimes you're lucky and you're in front of a delay PA. Happened to me at a Police show at their reunion tour. Audio came out great!
 
I'm hoping that its just as loud as when I saw a band at wembley recently so I should get decent results
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: rocksuitcase on September 05, 2024, 10:18:39 AM
Maybe over your budget, but I'd seriously think about a Sony M-10. They are not available new, only used. They sell in the under $300 U$ range around here.
I use the internal omni mics for shows, and while they are not as good sounding to my ears as the external mics I own, it IS a recording.

The "bonus" with the M-10 is the AA batteries last for well up to 24 hours of recording. I used a pair of batteries for an entire NOLA jazzfest, recording 17 sets on that one pair of batts!.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: daspyknows on September 05, 2024, 11:11:53 AM
I agree with above - it probably won’t be good regardless of approach, but if you are just looking for a personal memento/record of your personal experience, you could use a pair of binaural microphones that could pass as headphones.

I’d imagine the security at Wembly will be strict but a smartphone and a headset are rarely prohibited.
My iPhone and Sennheiser Ambeo headset have never raised an eyebrow.

Thank you i don't know what your experiences are but none of the shows I go to get taped, which is a bit annoying as it would mean a lot to be able to relive that experience

If its Oasis, the shows will be recorded.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: bonghitwillie on September 07, 2024, 02:22:59 PM
shotgun mics pointed at the sound source
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: goodcooker on September 07, 2024, 03:10:08 PM
shotgun mics pointed at the sound source

Did you bother to read the thread at all? He's going to Wembley Stadium and has to sneak in gear. Pretty sure shotgun mics aren't going to be the solution here.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: beroti_music on September 07, 2024, 04:40:36 PM
shotgun mics pointed at the sound source

Did you bother to read the thread at all? He's going to Wembley Stadium and has to sneak in gear. Pretty sure shotgun mics aren't going to be the solution here.

I agree. Except maybe mini shotgun mics from the At-853 series.
But I would opt for hypers instead of shotgun mics anyway.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: daspyknows on September 07, 2024, 05:55:14 PM
The one bit of advice I have regardless of gear is to practice and know your gear whatever it is.  Trying to record a stadium show the first time out isn't likely to yield much of a recording.  Maybe go to an event at the venue to test security, practice rigging up, stealth a show.  Years ago I lent a rig to someone who wanted to record U2.  I kept telling him to do his homework and he got as far setting it up once.  After the show he messages me saying his batteries were bad and recorder wouldn't turn on.  I said was it on hold and he asks what's hold.  He looks at recorder and he accidently turned on the hold.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: tjj5036 on September 08, 2024, 06:40:47 PM
Stadium shows, nosebleed seats, and quality tapes are three things that historically don't pair well together. Best bet for stealth is to get a set of cardiods and point them to a repeater stack and hope that it's not a windy day.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: beroti_music on September 08, 2024, 07:08:03 PM
Stadium shows, nosebleed seats, and quality tapes are three things that historically don't pair well together. Best bet for stealth is to get a set of cardiods and point them to a repeater stack and hope that it's not a windy day.

I pulled very good sounding tapes this way. Hypers pointed at repeaterstacks in the nosebleeds.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: beroti_music on September 09, 2024, 08:28:39 AM
Both Dublin shows will be proshot.
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: JoshMoores03 on February 01, 2025, 12:29:03 PM
Both Dublin shows will be proshot.

Yes I heard that people were asked whether they were okay with being filmed, I imagine all the gigs will be multitracked in some capacity if just for the screens but whether we get to see/hear them is a different thing all together
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: JoshMoores03 on February 01, 2025, 12:38:46 PM
Stadium shows, nosebleed seats, and quality tapes are three things that historically don't pair well together. Best bet for stealth is to get a set of cardiods and point them to a repeater stack and hope that it's not a windy day.
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From the pictures I've seen one of the hanging speakers is pointing towards my section so I might be able to get a decent sound, but what is genuinely quite galling is that you sometimes get what I presume are phone recordings that are genuinely listenable from dizzying heights in a stadium, so that is an avenue I could consider if all else fails but thank you for the recommendations for a cardiod mic.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9IeVzdFuE 
Title: Re: Advice for stadium recording
Post by: opsopcopolis on February 06, 2025, 05:14:39 PM
I agree with above - it probably won’t be good regardless of approach, but if you are just looking for a personal memento/record of your personal experience, you could use a pair of binaural microphones that could pass as headphones.

I’d imagine the security at Wembly will be strict but a smartphone and a headset are rarely prohibited.
My iPhone and Sennheiser Ambeo headset have never raised an eyebrow.

Thank you i don't know what your experiences are but none of the shows I go to get taped, which is a bit annoying as it would mean a lot to be able to relive that experience

If its Oasis, the shows will be recorded.

Definitely. I'm considering not even bothering for the Rose Bowl since I'm so confident it will be taped, but who am I kidding... I'll do it anyway