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Title: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: morst on November 24, 2025, 08:27:02 AM
Sometimes I see recording chain details listed with signal flow in reverse, and I’d like to try to explain why it is backwards


When I list my gear used, I begin by mentioning the transducer which converts air motion to electricity, such as the make and model of my microphone system


e.g. Neumann KM140


I then use a “greater than” character in place of a right arrow to denote that the electrical signal flows out of the mic and into the next piece of gear. Then I list the next piece of gear, such as the Zoom F3 recorder.


KM140 > Zoom F3


Sometimes I see lineage listed in reverse and it makes me scratch my head in wonder.


If I wrote it up as F3 > KM140 that would imply that signal from the recorder flows into the microphone, but that is literally the opposite of how the electrical signal moves.


I hope this makes sense, and might help folks to list their gear in the order that the signal proceeds within the circuitry.


As a side note, modern computers are able to generate and display a glyph which is, in fact, a right arrow, to wit: ➡️
Despite this potential, in order to be backwards compatible, I still think it’s best to use the more rudimentary “greater-than” sign, or if desired, a hyphen or dash character followed by the greater than sign character.
->


I am aware that this detail is not terribly important, but my brain has requested that my finger poke at the virtual keyboard to express this pedantic bit of typographic suggestion.


Thank you for reading this.

Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: vanark on November 24, 2025, 08:33:27 AM
The reverse order ones I see are a head scratcher.
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: nulldogmas on November 24, 2025, 11:01:55 AM
I just assumed some tapers are unstuck in time.
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: VibrationOfLife on November 24, 2025, 11:35:27 AM
I just assumed some tapers are unstuck in time.

Or dyslexic.
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: rocksuitcase on November 24, 2025, 01:21:38 PM
I Agree morst.
MY pedantic addition to this topic will be:
I DO NOT PREFER seeing into or goes into arrows written as ->, I PREFER them written as morst denotes: >

Reason: as an older dude, back in the day, especially on BB sites such as The Well, you would get "yelled at" if you used too many characters. This is my only reason for what is now a 30+ year obsession with these things.  :o >:D
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: morst on November 24, 2025, 01:28:47 PM
I Agree morst.
MY pedantic addition to this topic will be:
I DO NOT PREFER seeing into or goes into arrows written as ->, I PREFER them written as morst denotes: >

Reason: as an older dude, back in the day, especially on BB sites such as The Well, you would get "yelled at" if you used too many characters. This is my only reason for what is now a 30+ year obsession with these things.  :o >:D
on a dial-up account, every character counts!
GratefulDead? NO NO NO it's GD
Phish? WAAAAAY TOO LONG! Call it ph
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: grawk on November 24, 2025, 02:49:16 PM
I don't remember anyone getting complained at for -> instead of > on the well
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: rocksuitcase on November 24, 2025, 03:49:09 PM
I don't remember anyone getting complained at for -> instead of > on the well
You know how some people were back in the internecine day! I got "yelled at" many times about using too many characters.
To be fair, it my not have been -> vs >; however, the netiquette police were prolific on the Well back then.

 I kept my e-mails from that time period on zip drives.   lol
I used to be able to know the convos I had going all the way back to the first post I made.
Miss that place.
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: capnhook on November 25, 2025, 12:51:02 PM


Can't use ">" in YouTube video details  :banging head:


I switch to "-" to appease the machine  :facepalm:
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: morst on November 25, 2025, 02:09:18 PM


Can't use ">" in YouTube video details :banging:


I switch to "-" to appease the machine  :facepalm:


I do this on purpose in segues on my archive posts. Just in the actual multi-song track titles, not in the info.txt files.
Can't even recall why exactly, but probably to avoid it being interpreted as part of an HTML tag?!
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: fanofjam on December 10, 2025, 05:27:06 PM
On Dime, you could get banned for using -> instead of >.

Just kidding, but then again maybe not.  Dimes moderators suck so bad.
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: fobstl on December 15, 2025, 10:23:34 AM
The backward lineage has always been a head scratcher for me too. Good to see I'm not the only one!
Title: Re: [Style] Use of arrows or greater than signs in lineage to connote signal flow
Post by: Gutbucket on December 15, 2025, 11:16:00 AM
Yes, agreed.  Didn't know about the ghost in the machine pushing substitution of - for >, thanks.
 
My long-standing meta-take: musical volition > vibrations > voltages > numeric values > voltages > vibrations > virtual teleportation time-machine experience