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Title: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: grider on June 28, 2004, 01:44:48 PM
I have a dat stuck in my DAP1, I believe I powered off before stopping the the deck while recording, the dat rolled fine the entire set but now it will not eject and when I try to do so I get a display that says "Tape" or "Hold", the drawer on the dat itself which slides up when recording to reveal the tape is still in that up position, I have tried everything but no luck, any solutions or suggestions are welcomed and appreciated, thanks, Chris
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: grider on June 28, 2004, 02:16:57 PM
the Hold button itself was not on and is not now on, I just get that display for some reason, but the recording position itself definitely needs to be disengaged somehow, the dat and recording mechanism are stuck in the recording position even when the deck is powered off
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: Craig T on June 28, 2004, 02:40:38 PM
how are you powering it?  6v SLA?  If so, try the AC adaptor.  My DAP1 took a tape hostage once, nothing would work on 6v DC power, but I plugged it into the wall and I got it to give up the tape.  Worth a try.
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: JAH on June 28, 2004, 03:05:54 PM
try powering down Completely including removing the battery.  power on and make sure the hold "switch" is disengage

hope this helps
jah
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: grider on June 28, 2004, 08:49:17 PM
I have completely powered off, then powered back up with both battery power and ac power, nothing disengages the recording position however, damn thing is stuck
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: grider on June 29, 2004, 11:34:52 AM
problem solved, thanks to all who responded and to Doug and Jim Oade who also helped out
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: Brian Skalinder on June 29, 2004, 11:36:01 AM
problem solved, thanks to all who responded and to Doug and Jim Oade who also helped out

Soooo...what worked?
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: grider on June 29, 2004, 01:05:23 PM
I am not sure what caused the recording position to disengage, in fact I have no idea, monday morning I fired it up and it was totally stuck, I went home last night and fired it up again and I heard the recording mechanism retract and the tape rolled, weird, anyway Doug Oade mailed me three ways to remove the DAP1 tape drawer cover to access and remove a stuck dat, all of which are rather involved but were engineered into the machine to solve the problem of a stuck dat, well now I can get back to cloning and transferring my stack of dats thank God
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: JAH on June 29, 2004, 03:53:42 PM
Is there any sort of internal battery / memory that held the last command? (for lack of better terminology, and never owned one).
sometimes the Mechanisms  can stay at an "indeterminate-state" which is why I said take out the batt. v I've had it where it would not turn off so one had to yank the batt.

jah
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: grider on June 29, 2004, 04:31:48 PM
good question about the memory, I do not know the answer but I suspect there is if the internal battery is in place and charged, or at least its power would immediately retract the recording position the moment the machine was powered on once again, this did not play into my problem since I always use an external battery or ac power, interesting question though
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: John P on July 09, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
Can you/will you, post the text from Doug's emails for us P1 owners to have on file incase it happens to us?

Thanks
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: Steve J on July 10, 2004, 12:30:27 AM
Just FYI (and you probably know), if the P1 is run for 'extended periods' via AC or SLA's, it is recommended that the stock internal battery be removed.
Title: Re: DAP1 Help Please!
Post by: noahbickart on July 21, 2004, 10:02:36 PM
I've never found any use for the internal battery at all. It's dead weight. However the empty compartment is very convienient for sneaking a bunch of rolled joints in the show.

-Noah