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Title: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: drowned_in_milk on July 10, 2004, 06:09:41 PM
Are there any alternatives to phantom powering the 853Rx's that will allow me to, uh, not attenuate?  I really don't like the idea of boost-cut-boost if it's possible to avoid it.  Note i will not compromise my choice of preamp.  Unless I can modify an AD-20 to give phantom power, which I don't believe you can.  Can anyone recommend anything?  Is it possible to phantom power without the need of attenuators?

Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on July 10, 2004, 06:13:13 PM
The PS-2 phantom power won't raise your signal from mic to line level - it'll remain mic level - so you shouldn't need the attenuators between the PS-2 and the AD-20.  Simpy run:  AT853Rx > PS-2 > AD-20.
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on July 10, 2004, 06:38:12 PM
The PS-2 phantom power won't raise your signal from mic to line level - it'll remain mic level - so you shouldn't need the attenuators between the PS-2 and the AD-20.  Simpy run:  AT853Rx > PS-2 > AD-20.

it's common practice to attenuate the mic-level signal because the AD-tinny likes to brickwall, but yes, DIM might be a little confused on the function of the PS-2.

the Mic-2496 is very similar to the AD-20, except it provides phantom power and can output up to 24/192

a few people hear use the mp-2 and the mv-100 with their AT853s, leaving the adc upto their recording devices

Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on July 10, 2004, 06:39:19 PM
it's common practice to attenuate the mic-level signal because the AD-tinny likes to brickwall

Ahhhh...I did not know this.  Thanks for the correction, Schwill.
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on July 10, 2004, 06:51:31 PM
it's common practice to attenuate the mic-level signal because the AD-tinny likes to brickwall

Ahhhh...I did not know this.  Thanks for the correction, Schwill.

I was just explaining why people do it and recommend doing it.

it's still important to note that the PS-2 does not boost the signal, like you said.
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: drowned_in_milk on July 10, 2004, 07:06:23 PM
Whaaa!! 24/192, smaller than AD-20, Toslink-out, phantom power.... surely there's a catch, whith my crappy luck.  What are the downsides (besides price) to getting a mic-2496 instead of an AD20?
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on July 10, 2004, 07:17:00 PM
Whaaa!! 24/192, smaller than AD-20, Toslink-out, phantom power.... surely there's a catch, whith my crappy luck.  What are the downsides (besides price) to getting a mic-2496 instead of an AD20?

$500
you have to open it up to switch bit rate, power types, etc.
the phantom power is provided by one tiny ass mini-xlr 5pin.  Yer gonna have to get someone brave and skilled enough to make a dual 3pin > mini-xlr 5pin adapter for you.  Maybe Core Sound does this???

People here use them and it appears they have success
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: AT853rxwh on July 10, 2004, 10:38:15 PM
Other way to go would be mp2 and not have to worry about attenuators, mini 5 pins... and it has lots of blinking lights (selectable of course!)
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on July 10, 2004, 10:48:06 PM
Other way to go would be mp2 and not have to worry about attenuators, mini 5 pins... and it has lots of blinking lights (selectable of course!)

my medicine of choice too!
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: AT853rxwh on July 10, 2004, 10:50:55 PM
Other way to go would be mp2 and not have to worry about attenuators, mini 5 pins... and it has lots of blinking lights (selectable of course!)

my medicine of choice too!

+t for a man of taste!
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on July 10, 2004, 10:53:40 PM
Other way to go would be mp2 and not have to worry about attenuators, mini 5 pins... and it has lots of blinking lights (selectable of course!)

my medicine of choice too!

+t for a man of taste!

right back atcha.

I wonder how DPA 4061 > mp-2 sounds ;D
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: BobW on July 11, 2004, 11:10:42 AM
Whaaa!! 24/192, smaller than AD-20, Toslink-out, phantom power.... surely there's a catch, whith my crappy luck.  What are the downsides (besides price) to getting a mic-2496 instead of an AD20?

There's a used one up on pencomputingaudio yahoo group kids.
Can't vouch, though.............
moderators can't vouch, it's the rules.
Title: Re: Will AT853Rx w/ PS-2 > Attenuators > AD-20 crapify the signal?
Post by: zhianosatch on July 11, 2004, 12:03:26 PM
it's common practice to attenuate the mic-level signal because the AD-tinny likes to brickwall

Ahhhh...I did not know this.  Thanks for the correction, Schwill.

not sure about this happening with real mics... but it happens all the time with my dpas > MPS and also with my CSBs...