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Title: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Dr.FOB on July 11, 2004, 09:24:27 PM
I got my Jecklin disc made just in time for the Allgood Festy this weekend :)
I've got a lot of stuff to go through, and some gems in the grab too.
I'll post more a bit later when I've scraped off the dust and spun some tapes.
But, at first listen, I've been shown the light! 
There are some pics that I hope the other good Dr. will post for us too...
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: creekfreak on July 11, 2004, 09:42:20 PM
Good to hear, can't wait to try it out myself.
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: TenoRichards on July 12, 2004, 04:42:07 AM
played back on earphones or speakers, M? Is it the soundfield that is so amazing or what? From very far back, how would one of these effect one's recording? (I'm damn jealous you get to record so close up.)
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Dr.FOB on July 12, 2004, 08:51:24 AM
Here is my little Jecklin...
http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=22149.0
As you can see, we are wayyyy FOB.
I arrived just as the first act began on Friday and set up in the section.  After that I ran up front.
I think to get the best separation with this method you will need to run very close.
If you look across a line drawn from the front of the mic to the front of the disc and can see the opposite stack, you aren't close enough... I think this method would excel in on-stage taping.

Check out the Allgood PA.  What an awesome sound system they provided this year!
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: timP on July 12, 2004, 10:16:53 AM
I saw your sideways flying saucer up there this past weeked....looked like a nice setup..
would really love to hear how Spear or Soulive came out...
I ran 10" spaced omins for the 1st time and am really impressed by the amount of sound that was captured.....
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Cooker on July 12, 2004, 10:54:18 AM
is this Jim Madry? welcome!

-Kyle Pike
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Dr.FOB on July 12, 2004, 11:37:10 AM
My disc is LP sized.  ~12"
It's cut from Xacto foam board and covered with faux fur.
It attaches to the stand with a 3/8" bolt and a threaded rod coupler.

Yep, it's Jim here, mostly lurking... stealth like, ya'know...

I'd love to compare how the spaced omni's came out.  Spear was the loudest thing I've heard since NMAS under an 8' ceiling at Mississippi Nights!  It's an awesome recording.  I'll seed it if policy permits.

This is my first omni experience.  I usually put myself in a position where my sub cards perform well.  That's not close enough for the omnis!  It is hard to believe what the bass response will do to your 'normal' recording settings.  The bass levels caused me to lower my V3 settings by 10db compared to what I use for the 43s.  Many complain that my levels are to low, requiring too much volume control.  If you have thought that in the past then you won't like my Jecklin omni recordings.  But, if you want a kick in the pants with window rattling bass, crank it, and you're there!
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Brian on July 12, 2004, 12:30:33 PM
^^^^^^^^

i use hpf2(12db/oct@75Hz) almost religiously at the concerts i tape with my v2....which is mostly bass heavy rock concerts

Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Swampy on July 12, 2004, 12:36:35 PM
Jim, it was good to meet you. I was running ADK TLs, I came FOB with you guys on Sunday. You setup was very cool. Im going to get that Cambell Bros tape that my friend Jason patched off of you for! Can't wait to hear it! 
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: ashevillain on July 12, 2004, 02:36:26 PM
my 5" disc

pic?
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Tim on July 12, 2004, 05:01:33 PM
I had a giant door opened into the world of Persian music last night. I met several major performers last night, and they loved the concept of low profile recording. One of these was a music producer, who had a multi-track mix w/ foh-send after the recording mix. He flat out said that my 5" disc, just blew away his 8 mic mix, and that he would be contacting me about future gigs. He says he produces lots of Persian music, and he gave me a cd by his father, who is evidently a famous musician of his genre.
So lasts nights gig may have poisitive repercussions for a ong while.

:clapping:
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Jason R on July 12, 2004, 05:57:26 PM
Dr. FOB, I patched from you Sun. morning for the Campbell Bros.  I'll tell ya, this tape is soooo nice.  I have to turn the bass down a good bit b/c my playback system doesn't deal well with that kind of stuff.  In general the image is damn fine.  I ran  spread omnis ( 6 to 8 ft) for most of the weekend.  I was in the not so way FOB section on Sunday running a 40" spread for the Allstars.  I got to say that these two types of omni recordings are like night and day.   Whatever they both freakin kick major ass!!
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: hexyjones on July 12, 2004, 11:26:46 PM
Man...now I have to make one too...!!! (looks around room for large round objects...)

What kind of scenario is this best suited for...?

Would you want to use this technique with a diffuse soundfield? Like a large clanky room...
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Dr.FOB on July 18, 2004, 11:33:56 PM
I still haven't slowed enough to take detailed pictures, but here is a torrent sample of what the Jecklin disc is about...
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=6097
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: dr.ph0b on July 19, 2004, 12:02:13 PM

 Spear was the loudest thing I've heard since NMAS under an 8' ceiling at Mississippi Nights!  It's an awesome recording.  I'll seed it if policy permits.


oops.. i hope spear doesnt care about distributing that show, cause ive had it up on bt.etree.org for almost a week! altho its the rockin M/S version!  <--- trying to steal the jdisc thread  ::)   
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Dr.FOB on July 19, 2004, 03:35:18 PM
You want to hear a rockin' MS!
I'll post the Galactic set from Live on Penn late Tues. PM.
ak20+ak40MS 30' from stage dfc, stereo effects, awesome!

But back to the Jecklin talk... Stockholm Syndrome is posted and,
There's more AllGood to come...
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: JAH on July 20, 2004, 04:47:54 PM

Check out the Allgood PA.  What an awesome sound system they provided this year!
It's the Meyers system out of PA right....good stuff
jah
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Dr.FOB on July 21, 2004, 09:42:56 PM
Here are some pictures of my Jecklin Disc.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007180.jpg
It's 12" in dia., made from 1/2" art foam board, covered in faux fur.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007172.jpg
The mic bar/stand mount is folded from aluminum angle stock.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007169.jpg
The stand mount is a 3/8" bolt with a threaded rod coupler.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007175.jpg
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on July 22, 2004, 11:33:17 AM
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007180.jpg)

(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007172.jpg)

(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007169.jpg)

(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Dr.FOB/P0007175.jpg)


I could be wrong but I thought that the PA/etc. was handled through Raven Sound (http://www.ravensound.com/) out of Erie, PA.. I could be mixing this up with the Buffalo Pier 6 moe. show though :P
Title: Re: Jecklin disc - It's Allgood!
Post by: Craig T on July 22, 2004, 11:49:14 AM

I could be wrong but I thought that the PA/etc. was handled through Raven Sound (http://www.ravensound.com/) out of Erie, PA.. I could be mixing this up with the Buffalo Pier 6 moe. show though :P


http://www.meyersound.com/

Meyer Sound is the manufacturer, not contractor.  Some of the best sound I've heard has been from Meyer PA's.