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Title: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Q-W-Y on August 27, 2004, 05:09:22 AM: Hi,
I am new to taping, but i've done a few records from Soundboard already.
But the SBD records sounds flat...
It needs crowd noise. What should i do ?
I dont wanna buy one more recorder. I think that mixing SBD and crowd MIC before recorder should work fine, but i wanna ask you about your experiences.

Thank you.
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: thegreatgumbino on August 27, 2004, 08:56:56 AM: What is your current rig? I think it will help us to know what you are running.
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Q-W-Y on August 27, 2004, 10:29:49 AM: I use the Neuros HDD recorder. + homemade batterypack + (sometimes) homemade stereo mics (MCE2500)
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: bhtoque on August 27, 2004, 01:28:48 PM: Well, you'd need to add a mixer to your rig to do it, but it will give the sbd tapes some life.

Someone had a sampson mixpad fs here a while back. Check the yardsale.

JAson
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Tim on August 27, 2004, 01:51:53 PM: Do not use the word BOOTLEG

we are not BOOTLEGGERS
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: firmdragon on August 27, 2004, 08:08:07 PM: Quote from: Tim on August 27, 2004, 01:51:53 PM
Do not use the word BOOTLEG

we are not BOOTLEGGERS

its even worse when people use it as a verb
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Brian on August 27, 2004, 08:19:55 PM: i've always preferred ambient recordings to sbds for the exact reason you said. too dry sounding and not enough crowd noise if any at all.

of course sbd/aud matrix can really bring out the best of both worlds if done properly. plenty of tapers haves used a unit called the UA5 to do a very nice matrix on the fly to their recorder.

but if i had to decide, 9 times out of 10 i go for just ambient recordings with only mics

Brian
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Q-W-Y on August 29, 2004, 12:30:55 PM: Quote from: Tim on August 27, 2004, 01:51:53 PM
Do not use the word BOOTLEG

we are not BOOTLEGGERS
Fixed :-*
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Q-W-Y on August 29, 2004, 12:43:29 PM: Quote from: S_TL-Taper on August 27, 2004, 08:19:55 PM
i've always preferred ambient recordings to sbds for the exact reason you said. too dry sounding and not enough crowd noise if any at all.

of course sbd/aud matrix can really bring out the best of both worlds if done properly. plenty of tapers haves used a unit called the UA5 to do a very nice matrix on the fly to their recorder.

but if i had to decide, 9 times out of 10 i go for just ambient recordings with only mics

Brian

How much is the UA5?
SBD records need some postprocessing. (Equalizer,..) What do you use / your favourite settings?
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Brian on August 29, 2004, 12:52:38 PM: not sure if the original prices have changed but i got my oade digi and warm mod ua5 for $550. maybe $575..... i can't really remember.

when matrixing post production probably won't be necessary. but to answer your question :) ......

most soundboards i listen to lack a decent amount of midrange and extreme high end due to necessary mix settings for the PA live in the venue. so bump a little mids and little highs to add more "life to the recording.

other than that i don't do too much post production to soundboard recordings.
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: caymanreview on August 29, 2004, 12:54:40 PM: 550 for wmod
Title: Re: What do you prefer? Soundboard or MICs ? (Mixing before recorder?)
Post by: Chuck on August 29, 2004, 04:02:07 PM: $250 on eBay for the UA-5.
But you have to modify it for field use.
The instructions for doing the digi-modification are in the archive section.